sillbeers15 Posted October 12, 2018 Share #81 Posted October 12, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 hours ago, bags27 said: +1 about the lenses. They may show a mock-up of the SL2 at the May Photokina. But if they don't give some guidance about it before Panasonic starts shipping their cameras ("early" 2019), they may lose a lot of customers. I'm betting on at least a modest increase in MPS for the SL2, otherwise the larger, but lower cost Panasonic would tempt many. No. Not for me. Why bother with Panasonic when there is Leica? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hoppyman Posted October 15, 2018 Share #82 Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/3/2018 at 1:27 AM, Nordvik said: 50mm comparison: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Is that Nikon lens f/1.8? Size wise a more valid comparison might be with the new Summicron that is coming? i very seldom use the maximum aperture personally. I think the new Summicrons (35 and 50) coming are more appealing to use on my SL. The 24-90 makes superb images but size and weight of that and the body are quite substantial. A little softer edged body would be welcome as well. The controls and menu are first rate though, in my opinion best of all the Leicas I have worked with) Handling wise in studio it feels hardly less than the S for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted October 20, 2018 Share #83 Posted October 20, 2018 I have two M10s and an SL. I like the M10 sensor a lot better. I still like my SL great deal. Unknown which you should buy. Each have advantages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted October 20, 2018 Share #84 Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, 6bit said: I have two M10s and an SL. I like the M10 sensor a lot better. I still like my SL great deal. In which way(s)? Edited October 20, 2018 by helged Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted October 20, 2018 Share #85 Posted October 20, 2018 5 hours ago, helged said: In which way(s)? The M10 performs better at base ISO. Or it appears to me to perform significantly better. I also feel the M10 files accept a tiny bit more push/pull than the SL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 20, 2018 Share #86 Posted October 20, 2018 vor einer Stunde schrieb 6bit: The M10 performs better at base ISO. Or it appears to me to perform significantly better. I also feel the M10 files accept a tiny bit more push/pull than the SL. +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted October 20, 2018 Share #87 Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, 6bit said: The M10 performs better at base ISO. Or it appears to me to perform significantly better. I also feel the M10 files accept a tiny bit more push/pull than the SL. Thanks. For the SL, do you consider 50, 100 or 200 as base ISO? Just curious. In my experience, 50 and 200 give most head room, followed by 100. Edited October 20, 2018 by helged 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted October 20, 2018 Share #88 Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, helged said: Thanks. For the SL, do you consider 50, 100 or 200 as base ISO? Just curious. In my experience, 50 and 200 give most head room, followed by 100. Definitely 50 or 200. 100 seems to be a mess on both the SL and M10. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted October 21, 2018 Share #89 Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 6:01 PM, hoppyman said: Is that Nikon lens f/1.8? Size wise a more valid comparison might be with the new Summicron that is coming? i very seldom use the maximum aperture personally. I think the new Summicrons (35 and 50) coming are more appealing to use on my SL. The 24-90 makes superb images but size and weight of that and the body are quite substantial. A little softer edged body would be welcome as well. The controls and menu are first rate though, in my opinion best of all the Leicas I have worked with) Handling wise in studio it feels hardly less than the S for me. In the film days, a Nikon and Canon 1.4/50mm & a 1.8/50mm is hell allot of difference in size & weight. So I do not think you know what you are comparing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted October 21, 2018 Share #90 Posted October 21, 2018 8 hours ago, sillbeers15 said: In the film days, a Nikon and Canon 1.4/50mm & a 1.8/50mm is hell allot of difference in size & weight. So I do not think you know what you are comparing. Perhaps you misunderstood my comment. I used Nikon film cameras and then digital for more than 30 years. I have used Leica M and now mainly the S and SL systems for more than a decade all together. I do know what I am comparing. Your comment actually agrees with what I said. there is a big difference between the size of a f/1.4 50mm lens and a f/1.8 50mm lens f/1.8 and f/2 are usually very similar I have the SL. The photo I commented on showed an SL with a Summilix SL f/1.4 50mm lens next to a Nikon Z with a f/1.8 50mm lens A better size comparison for that Nikon f/1.8 50mm will be with the new APO Summicron SL f/2 ASPH when it is available. Leica Camera's photo from their website shows the size difference perfectly between the Summilux 50 and the Summicron 50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/289962-leica-sl2-l-alliance/?do=findComment&comment=3616476'>More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted October 21, 2018 Share #91 Posted October 21, 2018 SL 35, 50, 75 & 90 will share exterior lens casing. From the pics you've provided, the SL50 /2 will likely be a shade longer than the Nikon 50/1.8. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted October 22, 2018 Share #92 Posted October 22, 2018 14 hours ago, sillbeers15 said: SL 35, 50, 75 & 90 will share exterior lens casing. From the pics you've provided, the SL50 /2 will likely be a shade longer than the Nikon 50/1.8. Why do you think Leica is sharing housings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted October 22, 2018 Share #93 Posted October 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, 6bit said: Why do you think Leica is sharing housings? Cost. Aesthetics. Common components in the focusing equipment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted October 22, 2018 Share #94 Posted October 22, 2018 57 minutes ago, 6bit said: Why do you think Leica is sharing housings? From user point of view, I see the advantage of sharing the same set of filters with the same diameter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted October 22, 2018 Share #95 Posted October 22, 2018 Maintaining filter size doesn’t require the same housing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted November 1, 2018 Share #96 Posted November 1, 2018 On 9/30/2018 at 11:40 PM, FlashGordonPhotography said: But hear me now Leica. I will not buy another Leica camera with mandatory LENR. Gordon I don't care much about LENR, but I will certainly not buy an SL2 without IBIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted November 2, 2018 Share #97 Posted November 2, 2018 vor 16 Stunden schrieb Leicaiste: I don't care much about LENR, but I will certainly not buy an SL2 without IBIS. I think the majority of users feels the same way now that the Panasonic FF L-mount cameras will have IBIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted November 3, 2018 Share #98 Posted November 3, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 2:04 PM, LD_50 said: Maintaining filter size doesn’t require the same housing. However the commonality of components and design was a stated aim by Leica themselves in discussions about this new series. The prominent focal length markings make it easy if grabbing a lens quickly with this approach i would think Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted November 11, 2018 Share #99 Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) Am 8.10.2018 um 12:46 schrieb jaapv: The Nikon misses the left side grip - not nice ergonomically, cramped for larger hands. After I tried it yesterday with the 75 Summicron-M, I agree with you now. Putting one's left hand underneath the lens works with large lenses. With M lenses there is no place to rest the ball of one's left thumb. Edited November 11, 2018 by Chaemono Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted November 11, 2018 Share #100 Posted November 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Chaemono said: After I tried it yesterday with the 75 Summicron-M, I agree with you now. Putting one's left hand underneath the lens works with large lenses. With M lenses there is no place to rest the ball of one's left thumb. So, Nikon cocked it up, it doesn’t provide good handling with slim M lenses. It is usually the case that non native lens doesn’t sit well on native camera, like Leica R lens on Leica M camera, I think it is called compromise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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