pw1 Posted August 31, 2018 Share #1 Posted August 31, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Previously owned a Leica Q. Sold it last year and just recently purchased demo M10. I shoot mostly architectural and street. Currently only lens I use is Voightlander 35 1.7 Ultron. Am looking to add lens or two without spending a fortune. Used Leica would be a great choice. Would appreciate advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pw1 Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share #2 Posted August 31, 2018 Typo on mq 10. Not a new camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesL Posted August 31, 2018 Share #3 Posted August 31, 2018 Do you want to go wider or toward "normal"? Do you like crisp or the older look? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pw1 Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted September 1, 2018 Generally, I shoot with wide angle. I’ve been looking at 21 mm but not sure about using finder. Will probably purchase a 75 mm. But not yet. You can check my website and get an idea what I shoot. patrickwhalen.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesL Posted September 1, 2018 Share #5 Posted September 1, 2018 Yes, wider than 28mm requires a different approach to framing the shot. If that is acceptable, you might consider the Perar 21/4.5 - probably amenable to your style of post-processing. Vignettes heavily, which when not wanted can largely be remedied in post processing or a crop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted September 1, 2018 Share #6 Posted September 1, 2018 The 21mm Super-Elmar-M (SEM) is considered the best in it's focal length. Cheaper alternative would be the Voigtlander 21mm F4. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted September 1, 2018 Share #7 Posted September 1, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 21mm Super-Elmar-M (SEM) is considered the best in it's focal length. Cheaper alternative would be the Voigtlander 21mm F4. +1. And the Elmar 24/3.8. I'd suggest the Elmarit 28/2.8 ASPH. as well (v1 is a great little lens - and relatively "cheap" these days), but you may find its FL too close to your 35 for a 2nd lens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronazle Posted September 1, 2018 Share #8 Posted September 1, 2018 The 21mm Zeiss 2.8 Biogon a superb lens at a reasonable price. You might run down Putt's article on it. Regards, Ron 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted September 1, 2018 Share #9 Posted September 1, 2018 I used to shoot a lot of wide angle before my M10. For me the M10’s sweet spot is 28mm to 50mm then I occasionally use my 75mm and 90mm collapsible. I have a zeiss 21mm, I keep trying to use it, but it never feels right. I really love the 28mm Elmarit, really sharp and light. I find having a 28, 35 f2, 50 f1.4 and 90mm m y happy place. I’ll probably sell my 21mm. But that is me. I’ll haul out my D800 or Fuji Xpro if I want to go wider. JD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleswang Posted September 4, 2018 Share #10 Posted September 4, 2018 Congrats on the purchase. I would also recommend the 21mm super elmar for wide angle landscape and architecture work. It's super small and there's almost no distortion. One additional benefit with using native Leica glass in general is that m10's sensor and software are tailored made and well calibrated for them. Depending on different scenarios you WILL get better results on all parameters.You will also have the correct EXIF info that will make your post-processing workflow much easier. Another cool lens to think about for wide angle is the WATE (Wide angle Tri Elmar) which has three stepped focus lengths (16, 18, 21). If you can stomach the cost and think you will be able to utilize all the focal lengths fully I think it's not a bad choice. For a 75mm, you have three native options. Since 75mm is a newer focal length for Leica, you should be able to get good condition used glass for reasonable price. The APO 75mm Summicron is clinically sharp and pretty good all rounder ($2500 used or $4000 new). 75mm 1.4 (now discontinued) is the Bokelicious portrait lens with its thinner DOF and has been replaced by the even faster new $12500 75mm Noctilux. The cheaper alternative is to use the r lens adapter to adapt the excellent 80mm 1.4 lens made for the Leica R system - which has almost an identical rendering to the much loved 75mm summilux but a tad bigger and heavier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pw1 Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted September 4, 2018 Thanks, the super Elmer is at the top of my list. Have been watching for a good used one. Very hard to find. Not excited about using ebay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTLeica Posted September 5, 2018 Share #12 Posted September 5, 2018 Generally, I shoot with wide angle. I’ve been looking at 21 mm but not sure about using finder. Will probably purchase a 75 mm. But not yet. You can check my website and get an idea what I shoot. patrickwhalen.com You'll like an optical finder I reckon. I thought I would hate it, but it was a bit of a game changer. 21mm doesnt really need focussing especially if F5.6 onwards is used for street, just focus 2.5 meters away and it'll all be in focus, then use the optical finder for framing. Its good fun. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted September 5, 2018 Share #13 Posted September 5, 2018 You might consider the 16-18-21 wate, if budget allows. It's a very architectural lens perfect for interiors or exteriors.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pw1 Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted September 6, 2018 Please explain how16-18-21 works. I see them being talked about a lot, but I don’t understand the workings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaseyS Posted September 6, 2018 Share #15 Posted September 6, 2018 The Voigtlander 21mm F4 Color Skopar gets great reviews for what it cost. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted September 6, 2018 Share #16 Posted September 6, 2018 Please explain how16-18-21 works. I see them being talked about a lot, but I don’t understand the workings. The WATE (Wide Angle Tri-Elmar) has click stops at 16mm, and 18mm and 21mm, but when used with liveview it acts as a 16-21mm zoom. I've had 2 copies and build quality on both were excellent. Also focuses closer (50cm) than most Leica lenses. It's a very practical lens and image quality is superb. There are some donwsides though... 1. The lens does not take filters so you need to purchase a seperate filter holder. 2. It exhibits strong mustache distortion, making it not so ideal for architecture. 3. Expensive. 4. A bit on the large side if you don't shoot wider than 21mm often. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted September 6, 2018 Share #17 Posted September 6, 2018 Most of the time my Ultron 1.7/35 VM and the SEM 3.4/21 are in my Bag. For me 21mm is a great addition to 35mm! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pw1 Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted September 6, 2018 That sounds like a good combo. Do you use evf with 21? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted September 6, 2018 Share #19 Posted September 6, 2018 The viewfinder can’t give you the full wide angle view. Don’t forget, you can use live view to see exactly what the lens is seeing and what the sensor will record. You only need an external EVF if you are shooting in bright light and can’t see the image on the rear screen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 6, 2018 Share #20 Posted September 6, 2018 The viewfinder can’t give you the full wide angle view. Don’t forget, you can use live view to see exactly what the lens is seeing and what the sensor will record. You only need an external EVF if you are shooting in bright light and can’t see the image on the rear screen. Or if you dislike the "dirty nappy" style of photographing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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