shirubadanieru Posted April 22, 2022 Share #921 Posted April 22, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 4/20/2022 at 2:38 PM, Ccoppola82 said: Not to barge in, but you can get a metal replacement part you can install yourself from a website called shapeways. I did mine and it took about 10 minutes and I believe it will last longer than the cheap plastic. Of course it isn’t Leica original, but I don’t have lenses to look at, I have them to look through. If you do a google search you can find images on how to actually do it. Kanto camera also has their own brass focusing knobs for the lux…they look great, better than the original 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adan Posted May 8, 2022 Share #923 Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Time to bring this thread back from the dead - especially since I am re-joining the club. Ran across a 1982 Canadian 35 Summilux-M a few days ago, and decided I could give up 0.7m focusing for a 35 a bit more in line in color and contrast with my other 1980s Mandler/Canada lenses. So swapped my 35mm Nokton f/1.4 v.II in a three-way deal (someone got my Nokton to use on their "new" M5, someone else got a great-shape used 35mm Summicron ASPH in exchange for their Summilux-M, and I got the Summilux - ). Three happy people! Came with the 12504 lens hood and plastic slip-on 1980s LEICA cap and original box/paperwork - and (no extra charge) a palindromic serial number: 31xzx13. No idea which "version" it counts as (except obviously no steel rim and no infinity lock - yay!) but very clean condition. Trio on the Street - 35mm Summilux-M, f/2.0, M10. Beautifully-modulated grays as far as the eye can see...... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 8, 2022 by adan 17 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4431434'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted May 8, 2022 Share #924 Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, adan said: Time to bring this thread back from the dead - especially since I am re-joining the club....swapped my 35mm Nokton f/1.4 v.II in a three-way deal......and I got the Summilux... No idea which "version" it counts as (except obviously no steel rim and no infinity lock - yay!) but very clean condition... Congrats on the 'catch', Andy. As you had the Nokton for quite some time I'd be interested to read any summing-up opinions you might have as to how the Summilux compares with the Voigtlander when used for monochrome image-making (and whether your example was the SC or MC). AFAIK there were (really) only two versions of the 35 Summilux before the ASPH appeared; the "Steel-Rim" from 1960 - '66 and the v2 from then until end of production in '95. Much has been written about different batches within each version but, without going into minutiae, "v1" and "v2" are the only commonly-used informal designations which encompass all the pre-ASPH lenses. Philip. Edited May 8, 2022 by pippy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted May 8, 2022 Share #925 Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, pippy said: As you had the Nokton for quite some time I'd be interested to read any summing-up opinions you might have as to how the Summilux compares with the Voigtlander when used for monochrome image-making (and whether your example was the SC or MC). I had MC lenses (and used both the v.1 and v.2 Noktons sequentially over about 3 years). Main differences between the Leica and the C/Vs are: - The MC CVs have more overall contrast at all apertures, and do not have the super-low "romantic veil" contrast of the Summilux at f/1.4. However my new copy of the Summilux is not as "romantic" at f/1.4 as my previous one (can't recall the S/N of that one, but I think it was late 1960s), so obviously sample variation could be a factor. With the Noktons, it would have taken a lot more adjustment to shadows and highlights in post to even approximate my Summilux image above, and the midtone contrast would have suffered (not all toothpaste can be put back in the tube through post-processing ). - The C/Vs are redder in color balance - probably not enough to show any monochrome differences (darker skies, different skin tones?) but I didn't really keep track of that. - At f/1.4 and less so f/2.0, the C/V resolution (or at least MTF) in the exact center usually is higher, although that could be my focusing with the new lens or other factors - sometimes the Summilux seems better or worse even compared with itself ). - the "Leica Glow" from spherical plus other aberrations is more prominent with the Summilux, although the Noktons will produce a little at f/1.4, but tighter and smaller. Summilux, then Nokton (v1), both at f/1.4, same scale. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! - The fuzziness of the C/Vs away from the center takes more stopping down to improve. Excepting the extreme corners (which require f/11 with either), I would say the Summilux is pretty sharp over most the picture by f/4 (maybe f/2.8 if one squints hard), while the Noktons need f/6.8 or f/8. Perhaps because...... - The C/Vs have more "baroque" astigmatic coma ("wings" on point light sources near the corners) - the Summilux "wings" are longer but fade out faster, and have no "tails" (more fan-like coma - see also in "glow" shots above). Partly just due to the overall contrast difference (and I admit my examples are not the same scene contrast either - have not yet had a chance to find a better subject match for the Summilux). Or put another way, the Summilux draws "moths," the Noktons draw "dragonflies." Nokton coma, then Summilux coma x 2, both at f/1.4; color shots top-left corner of pictures; B&W, bottom-right of picture. Even on "normal" textures, without point-lights to reveal all, the Nokton aberrations produce more-distinct "around the center, looks like camera shake" streaks in the corners. Here's a lower-left corner of a Nokton II picture - compare to yellow-brick wall above from Summilux. We can almost see the "wings" sprouting from each grain of sand in the cement, while the Summilux streaks are much subtler and more of just a blur. Edited May 8, 2022 by adan 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! - The fuzziness of the C/Vs away from the center takes more stopping down to improve. Excepting the extreme corners (which require f/11 with either), I would say the Summilux is pretty sharp over most the picture by f/4 (maybe f/2.8 if one squints hard), while the Noktons need f/6.8 or f/8. Perhaps because...... - The C/Vs have more "baroque" astigmatic coma ("wings" on point light sources near the corners) - the Summilux "wings" are longer but fade out faster, and have no "tails" (more fan-like coma - see also in "glow" shots above). Partly just due to the overall contrast difference (and I admit my examples are not the same scene contrast either - have not yet had a chance to find a better subject match for the Summilux). Or put another way, the Summilux draws "moths," the Noktons draw "dragonflies." Nokton coma, then Summilux coma x 2, both at f/1.4; color shots top-left corner of pictures; B&W, bottom-right of picture. Even on "normal" textures, without point-lights to reveal all, the Nokton aberrations produce more-distinct "around the center, looks like camera shake" streaks in the corners. Here's a lower-left corner of a Nokton II picture - compare to yellow-brick wall above from Summilux. We can almost see the "wings" sprouting from each grain of sand in the cement, while the Summilux streaks are much subtler and more of just a blur. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4431791'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted May 8, 2022 Share #926 Posted May 8, 2022 Hi, Andy, and thanks very much for such a comprehensive, fully-considered and well thought-out analytical reply; seriously appreciated I assure you. My own experience with a 40mm f1.4 Nokton and a '74 35mm Summilux pretty much duplicate your own findings so, all things considered, your observations regarding various optical aberrations seem to be consistent from these two manufacturers in regard of these particular f/length and max.aperture lens design philosophies. Interesting and thanks again! Philip. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunner Posted May 10, 2022 Share #927 Posted May 10, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica M-D 262 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4432476'>More sharing options...
Andy_Shields Posted May 11, 2022 Share #928 Posted May 11, 2022 35mm pre-asph Summilux V2 / M-A / HP5 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 19 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4432986'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted May 12, 2022 Share #929 Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) The lonely house Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH v2 Edited May 12, 2022 by evikne 16 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH v2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4433667'>More sharing options...
simonwesterlund Posted May 12, 2022 Share #930 Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M11 + 35mm summilux v2 f1.4 Edited May 12, 2022 by simonwesterlund 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M11 + 35mm summilux v2 f1.4 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4433706'>More sharing options...
simonwesterlund Posted May 12, 2022 Share #931 Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) M11 + 35mm summilux v2 f1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 12, 2022 by simonwesterlund Attached wrong picture 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4433710'>More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 15, 2022 Share #932 Posted May 15, 2022 35:1.4 v2 & M6 TTL , SF24 Flash . Tri X Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4435733'>More sharing options...
J Peterman Posted May 20, 2022 Share #933 Posted May 20, 2022 KEH had 2 of these lenses available in “bargain” condition. Out of interest, I called and asked if they could provide the serial numbers…the cheaper one was a 216xxx… …it arrives on Tuesday! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 20, 2022 Share #934 Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, J Peterman said: KEH had 2 of these lenses available in “bargain” condition. Out of interest, I called and asked if they could provide the serial numbers…the cheaper one was a 216xxx… …it arrives on Tuesday! Congratulations ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted May 21, 2022 Share #935 Posted May 21, 2022 M10R, Steel Rim Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 18 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4439125'>More sharing options...
knuteoen Posted May 21, 2022 Share #936 Posted May 21, 2022 M10M with Steel Rim 177..... Got it fixed and cleaned by DAG Cam in the US. And by the way thanks to all for the great pictures and info in this thread. I really love this old lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4439140'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted May 22, 2022 Share #937 Posted May 22, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux pre asph v2 1981 - Leica MP - Ektachrome 100 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux pre asph v2 1981 - Leica MP - Ektachrome 100 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4439909'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted May 22, 2022 Share #938 Posted May 22, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux pre asph v2 1981 - Leica MP - Ektachrome 100 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux pre asph v2 1981 - Leica MP - Ektachrome 100 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4439910'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted May 22, 2022 Share #939 Posted May 22, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux v2 1981 - Leica M2 - Kodak Vision3 200T Same set up with a BW conversion below: 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux v2 1981 - Leica M2 - Kodak Vision3 200T Same set up with a BW conversion below: ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4439915'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted May 23, 2022 Share #940 Posted May 23, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with 35mm Summilux v2 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with 35mm Summilux v2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4440399'>More sharing options...
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