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Just now, shirubadanieru said:

Yes, one thing I forgot to mention is that especially with the V1 lens, there is variation from batch to batch (or even lens to lens) so it’s hard to give a definite answer as to the rendering, since so many factors come into place, not only the condition of the lens and what it has been through in its long life, BUT also the difference in production, since there was variation coming out of the factory (from what I’ve read). And Steven, if you want to be a good Leica ambassador you’d give me your infinity lock version so that I can finally use it to compare with the others hehe jk

Come to paris, I’ll let you test all 9 of them ! 

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1 hour ago, shirubadanieru said:

I actually shot the summilux steel rim yesterday wide open and at f2, alongside the 35mm 8 elements wide open, and I’ve also used all summilux pre-asph versions (minus the infinity lock version :( ) and I think both of you are right ahah

Just to add that there are various batches  (216, 222, 229, 234 ) of  the 35 summilux pre-asph v2 infinity lock lenses and the differences between batches aren't only cosmetic with brass or alu stopper !

Hope you can try early v2 lock versions , you might be well surprised ! 
 

Best, JM

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14 minutes ago, JMF said:

Just to add that there are various batches  (216, 222, 229, 234 ) of  the 35 summilux pre-asph v2 infinity lock lenses and the differences between batches aren't only cosmetic with brass or alu stopper !

Hope you can try early v2 lock versions , you might be well surprised ! 
 

Best, JM

JM if you have one to sell let me know ahah cannot find it anywhere for a reasonable price. Would love to try the early v2 one :) was only able to find the later one.

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17 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said:

JM if you have one to sell let me know ahah cannot find it anywhere for a reasonable price. Would love to try the early v2 one :) was only able to find the later one.

Not for the near future yet I will keep this in mind 😊 

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26 minutes ago, Ernstk said:

And you're not a collector? It's OK Steven, there's no shame in it (mostly). 😃

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No. I’m a user who enjoys the nicest things. 
if I buy a car, I want an Aston Martin. Not to keep it in the garage. Yo use it and damage it. 

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9 hours ago, JMF said:

Just to add that there are various batches  (216, 222, 229, 234 ) of  the 35 summilux pre-asph v2 infinity lock lenses and the differences between batches aren't only cosmetic with brass or alu stopper !

Hope you can try early v2 lock versions , you might be well surprised ! 
 

Best, JM

if you don't mind, can you share what the differences are? and are the serials you mentioned the ones i should try?

also can you (or @Steven ) confirm or deny these serials focus to 0.85m?

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1 hour ago, shirubadanieru said:

if you don't mind, can you share what the differences are? and are the serials you mentioned the ones i should try?

also can you (or @Steven ) confirm or deny these serials focus to 0.85m?

216 is what they call the transionnal batch. Started as steel rim, finished as V2. It's my favourite batch of all, weather V1 or V2. 

222 is great too. It's the batch during which they switched from brass to aluminium lock. 

234 is a alright batch too, with more sharpness than the later, non infinty lock V2. 

 

My V2 lenses seem to focus closer than 1m indeed. But it seemed to me like 0,9. 

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28 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said:

if you don't mind, can you share what the differences are? and are the serials you mentioned the ones i should try?

also can you (or @Steven ) confirm or deny these serials focus to 0.85m?

Hi, 

I  cannot be more specific as these  lenses are too old and inconsistent. 

 The M3 goggled versions are good contenders.

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2 minutes ago, Steven said:

216 is what they call the transionnal batch. Started as steel rim, finished as V2. It's my favourite batch of all, weather V1 or V2. 

222 is great too. It's the batch during which they switched from brass to aluminium lock. 

234 is a alright batch too, with more sharpness than the later, non infinty lock V2. 

 

My V2 lenses seem to focus closer than 1m indeed. But it seemed to me like 0,9. 

So just so i understand. 216 = best with glass from steel rim.

222 = both available in aluminum and brass and second best

234 = no lock, but best after the infinity lock ones.

My non-infinity lock version def. does not go beyond 1m, but I heard the infinity lock ones could focus slightly closer (another advantage)

And correct, I got a goggled one before which was great with 0.65m focus BUT the glasses annoy me, the lens becomes quite heavier and besides the M3 the finder becomes just too small in all other cameras.

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Just now, shirubadanieru said:

So just so i understand. 216 = best with glass from steel rim.

222 = both available in aluminum and brass and second best

234 = no lock, but best after the infinity lock ones.

My non-infinity lock version def. does not go beyond 1m, but I heard the infinity lock ones could focus slightly closer (another advantage)

234 has a lock. I think it's the last batch with a lock. 

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Just now, shirubadanieru said:

So just so i understand. 216 = best with glass from steel rim.

222 = both available in aluminum and brass and second best

234 = no lock, but best after the infinity lock ones.

My non-infinity lock version def. does not go beyond 1m, but I heard the infinity lock ones could focus slightly closer (another advantage)

This 234 with aluminum infinity lock   is RF coupled to less than 3 feet:

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This 239 v2  is coupled down to 0,65 m 😉

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56 minutes ago, JMF said:

This 234 with aluminum infinity lock   is RF coupled to less than 3 feet:

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This 239 v2  is coupled down to 0,65 m 😉

Ah ! that gorgeous 239 V2. My future favorite lens 😉

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