pico Posted August 11, 2018 Share #281 Posted August 11, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) A friend of mine has been using Leica M film cameras since his late father gave him one fifty years ago. One day he asked me if I had a digital camera that he could use to 'knock off some pictures' of something he had to sell. Well, I have a Panasonic G-something and a bag of lenses, instruction manual and handed it to him saying, "Enjoy" He did not enjoy. He returned it saying, "I never thought taking a picture could be made so difficult." 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted August 11, 2018 Share #282 Posted August 11, 2018 I must be a genius - i don't find Panasonic G-something cameras difficult at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 11, 2018 Share #283 Posted August 11, 2018 I must be a genius - i don't find Panasonic G-something cameras difficult at all Well, there is an idiot (I) mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 11, 2018 Share #284 Posted August 11, 2018 It’s all as difficult as the user makes it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 11, 2018 Share #285 Posted August 11, 2018 Well, there is an idiot (I) mode. That too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted August 12, 2018 Share #286 Posted August 12, 2018 I must be a genius - i don't find Panasonic G-something cameras difficult at all As a dentist you are used to work with technical equipment. Besides that, I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy was only referring to the menu structure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 12, 2018 Share #287 Posted August 12, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm no dentist so i have nothing against retro cameras but i have plenty of them already. I would just like a modern Leica M or my M240 will be my last rangefinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted August 12, 2018 Share #288 Posted August 12, 2018 DL is either hopelessly clueless of how different people have different interests, values, and preferences or is just trying to get attention. He writes with complete investment in his own values, ignorant of the huge diversity of others, he thinks he knows it all... but does not understand people... of yeh, a techi... they are known for the absence of EQ. The M10 is not intended as a please all possible camera user types, otherwise it would have a cutting edge sensor and every electronic option under the sun. It is a refined design specifically tailored to a group of very serious photographers... the knowledge of many decades of refinement then recast in the digital world. Leica struggled making the transition, not surprising. First thinking that a cropped sensor was the way to go... following to some extent what the other digital camera manufacturers were doing... but they got their footing back and realized that the essence of photography is no different than it was in the film days. The difference, ISO dial instead of film advance lever. It is not at all surprising the camera evolves back to what it was twenty years ago? The future of the M should be incredibly bright (unless Leica looses focus from a business point of view again). The next version will have a sensor with greater dynamic range and more pixels... and honestly the removable bottom is only vestigial... that can go. Otherwise, while not a camera for absolutely every situation, for me it is the best camera on Earth and I am looking forward to the M11. JD 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 12, 2018 Share #289 Posted August 12, 2018 As a dentist you are used to work with technical equipment. Besides that, I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy was only referring to the menu structure. Still struggling with my chair though. It's Italian and the electronic part must have been designed by the son of the bloke who did the electrics of the Alfa Giulia 1600 Super... My friend had one - when he used the indicator switch the lights used to come on - with a bit of smoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 12, 2018 Share #290 Posted August 12, 2018 Still struggling with my chair though. It's Italian and the electronic part must have been designed by the son of the bloke who did the electrics of the Alfa Giulia 1600 Super... My friend had one - when he used the indicator switch the lights used to come on - with a bit of smoke. Bit of smoke for signalling, designer must have been fan of Cowboy and Red Indian movies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 13, 2018 Share #291 Posted August 13, 2018 What’s a Red Indian? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 13, 2018 Share #292 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) Our languages will be paying for Columbus's navigational confusion for all time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian Edited August 13, 2018 by adan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2018 Share #293 Posted August 13, 2018 Still struggling with my chair though. It's Italian and the electronic part must have been designed by the son of the bloke who did the electrics of the Alfa Giulia 1600 Super... My friend had one - when he used the indicator switch the lights used to come on - with a bit of smoke. More likely electronics by Lucas........The Prince of Darkness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 13, 2018 Share #294 Posted August 13, 2018 In comparison - my MGB was an example of reliability, despite being a real "Lucas" car... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 13, 2018 Share #295 Posted August 13, 2018 More likely electronics by Lucas........The Prince of Darkness. http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 13, 2018 Share #296 Posted August 13, 2018 What’s a Red Indian? Red Indian is native of Americas as opposed to Asian Indian natives and inhabitant of modern India. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 13, 2018 Share #297 Posted August 13, 2018 I had to ask as my grandson and two great grandsons are Navajo and Ute Tribes and don’t have a spot of red on them. I had never heard that term before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantemi Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share #298 Posted August 13, 2018 honestly. the last thing I'd need on the future M11 is video. I had it on the m240 and never used. Video requires AF to be seriously operated. I used video on the Canon 5DIV and there, thanks to the dual pixel AF, is really useful. My Gopro 6 is better (and more effective) at video than my previous M240... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted August 13, 2018 Share #299 Posted August 13, 2018 Any crap like this -- "end of the road for M" -- is only going to drive sales as people know the prices will start to skyrocket if -- Oscar forbid -- the line gets ended some day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 13, 2018 Share #300 Posted August 13, 2018 honestly. the last thing I'd need on the future M11 is video. I had it on the m240 and never used. Video requires AF to be seriously operated. I used video on the Canon 5DIV and there, thanks to the dual pixel AF, is really useful. My Gopro 6 is better (and more effective) at video than my previous M240... AF for Video??? Why? I used my M240 as a video notebook when travelling and it was perfect for the purpose. No need to drag other gear around. And don't start saying iPhone or GoPro, those video clips are not on the same card as the images the videos referred to. The whole point was to link the two. Journalistic and travel use, two things this camera is meant for, are served by an integrated, albeit limited, video function. And if you don't want it, shut it off. I never use EV compensation. Should I go on the forums and stridently proclaim that it is useless and should be taken off the camera - just because it happens to be something I don't want or need? Leica took it out of the M10 because they could not get the heat management right in the smaller body. If they are wise the'll reintroduce it, if only as a menu function, when it becomes possible again. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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