trequartista Posted July 26, 2018 Share #1 Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Had this already with another M in the past and now with the M10 again. It doesn‘t bother me, bur I am curious: Why is it there? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 26, 2018 by trequartista Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286962-artifacts-in-rangefinder/?do=findComment&comment=3561937'>More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted July 26, 2018 Share #2 Posted July 26, 2018 Looking hard, but I can't see something as "artifacts in RF". You may point where they are ? And what exactly ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 26, 2018 Share #3 Posted July 26, 2018 The rangefinder mechanism is not sealed so it could be any number of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted July 27, 2018 Meaning this little bright metal artefact Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286962-artifacts-in-rangefinder/?do=findComment&comment=3562172'>More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted July 27, 2018 Share #5 Posted July 27, 2018 I see now. Checked on mine, nothing there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted July 27, 2018 That‘s kinda weird. I already saw it in the rangefinder of my last M 262, but there were like three specks so I first thought it‘s dust. Anybody else has these marks? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286962-artifacts-in-rangefinder/?do=findComment&comment=3562588'>More sharing options...
pico Posted July 27, 2018 Share #7 Posted July 27, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) An assembly person was not wearing a face mask and hair net and not wearing gloves. Look at Leica's own photos of production. Inexcusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted July 27, 2018 An assembly person was not wearing a face mask and hair net and not wearing gloves. Look at Leica's own photos of production. Inexcusable. Probably it‘s a piece of hair net in the end. What a pity. The DNA of the employee will affect my photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted July 27, 2018 Share #9 Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Probably it‘s a piece of hair net in the end. What a pity. The DNA of the employee will affect my photos. Not likely a piece of hair net, but I am disappointed with Leica's handling. It should not surprise us that almost all dust in a work-space is skin sheds. Coming in second is clothing shedding. Edited July 27, 2018 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted July 27, 2018 Well, in the end it‘s not an object. It‘s like a mark that brassed the black piece of frame and I find it strange that it apparently is not a single case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 28, 2018 Share #11 Posted July 28, 2018 They look like breadcrumbs to me, but I'd worry as to where the Bratwurst has lodged. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) Well, it might be odd, but I just want to know if it is a normal case with this part of the rangefinder or if it should bother me. Because it is clearly visible when you look at the camera from an upper angle. So if anybody can check their rangefinder it would be a big help. :-) Edited July 28, 2018 by trequartista Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 28, 2018 Share #13 Posted July 28, 2018 You’re looking through the rangefinder in the wrong direction. You view it through the other side to take pictures. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted July 31, 2018 Share #14 Posted July 31, 2018 You’re looking through the rangefinder in the wrong direction. You view it through the other side to take pictures. Your snide comments are getting old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted July 31, 2018 Share #15 Posted July 31, 2018 Since last time looking hard but saw nothing in M10/M262, I investigated deeper. Shining a lamp into the VF, I see some "specks", but moving the M262 delivered that the "shining specks" come from a sort of chrome plate below the "black bar". So nothing special, just use the camera as it was intended for... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 31, 2018 Share #16 Posted July 31, 2018 They look like breadcrumbs to me, but I'd worry as to where the Bratwurst has lodged. Strudel dust was going to be my guess. It's common on Leica's assembled after lunch. I always insist on a Leica that was assembled before noon. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrQ Posted July 31, 2018 Share #17 Posted July 31, 2018 Had this already with another M in the past and now with the M10 again. It doesn‘t bother me, bur I am curious: Why is it there? My brand new M10 has the identical artifact, very similar shape and location. It is too similar to be a coincidence. Now, there is no way for me to say for sure, but this could be just a remnant of parts making. Like in plastic molding, the final part is attached to a sprue via a gate. That part needs to be detached near the gate to be used, and sometimes there is a little bit of gating material left during the separation process. Any part/component that is made by injection, molding or casting shows some gate remnant on the final parts. It is up to the manufacturer to use a second operation to trim the excess and make the part look perfect. I too hope this is just a cosmetic nuisance... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286962-artifacts-in-rangefinder/?do=findComment&comment=3564804'>More sharing options...
trequartista Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted August 6, 2018 Well, in the end I got back to my dealer and Leica said that it's definitely not normal, so they replaced the camera. Now I have a new one and there rangefinder doesn't have any marks. It might seem to be silly, but why should I accept any flaws on a new product by a company that stands for multiple quality controls? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted August 6, 2018 Share #19 Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) On a more general note: Quality control (or rather the effective lack thereof) sadly has been a recurring topic in recent years. There are too many threads in this forum not to regard this as a consistent and persistent problem. I myself had to receive several specimen of more than one lens model until I got hold of flawless copies respectively. The last one only turned out perfect after a visit to the diligent people at Customer Service (we are talking brand new products here, bought at the Wetzlar flagship store).I was tired of replacements and heeded a CS member‘s advice to get the lens set up properly by them instead of getting yet another replacement from the factory. Yet I am still delighted by their products, once brought up to specs, and I love to use them for my photography. Edited August 6, 2018 by schattenundlicht Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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