Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Black-Chrome Limited Edition), why the stock NEVER ENDS?

[anickpick]

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All three versions qualify for Leica‘s nwofsfsp program. (Nasty workaround for stupid filter shade problem)

I am still hoping for a fourth version:

4th: summilux 50mm 1.4 black chrome sfsps edition 

(stupid filter shade problem solved)

Edited April 20, 2021 by anickpick

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[hdmesa]

11 minutes ago, anickpick said:

All three versions qualify for Leica‘s nwofsfsp program. (Nasty workaround for stupid filter shade problem)

I am still hoping for a fourth version:

4th: summilux 50mm 1.4 black chrome sfsps edition 

(stupid filter shade problem solved)

Same here. I can't believe in that long-running thread about the shade issue that owners were fumbling over themselves to thank Leica for that screw-on solution that requires hood modification. The hood just looks stupid screwed onto a filter and ruins the look of the retro clip-on shade with the white writing on it. They should have just sucked it up and made the appropriate 43mm filter specific to the BC model with a groove milled out for the hood clips.

[evikne]

To me, the 50mm Summilux BC would have been just perfect with simply an ordinary 46mm filter thread. I don't like the narrow 43mm front very much. But that's just me of course. I just love the scalloped focus ring and the matte finish. I don't care if it isn't 100% identical to the original Summilux. 

[graphlex]

1 hour ago, NigelG said:

Plus they’re making it in Portugal now too..

Indeed.  My copy, made in Portugal, is flawless. 
 

But if I used filters often, I wouldn’t have chosen the BC/43mm.

[michael_b]

I have a simple solution for the shade problem. Original shade is back in the box. I bought a step-up ring 43-46 and a JJC shade with 46 mm thread. Looks quite good, has less weight and I can use my 46 mm filters.

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[farnz]

2 hours ago, hdmesa said:

For the first 500 buyers, yes. 

Meh, not so much in my case.  As one of the first 500 buyers I didn't buy it for its limited edition so the (at the time) implied resale value was of no interest and I have no plans to sell it in the foreseeable future.

Pete.

[hdmesa]

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56 minutes ago, farnz said:

Meh, not so much in my case.  As one of the first 500 buyers I didn't buy it for its limited edition so the (at the time) implied resale value was of no interest and I have no plans to sell it in the foreseeable future.

Pete.

Due to the receipt of this new information, I will amend my earlier statement from 500 to 499. Anyone else in the first 500 not bothered? 🙃

I’m glad you and probably others in the first 500 aren’t bothered, but I’m sure quite a few collectors that bought them were not amused. But then again, I don’t much feel sorry for some of them, since all the special editions get snapped up too quickly.

 

[Pixeleater]

9 hours ago, michael_b said:

I have a simple solution for the shade problem. Original shade is back in the box. I bought a step-up ring 43-46 and a JJC shade with 46 mm thread. Looks quite good, has less weight and I can use my 46 mm filters.

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I like the BC but the Leica hood does leave much to be desired. I ordered the Overgaard hood because it screws in but getting tired of the long wait and no communication from his sales front. I may cancel and look to this solution instead.

[anickpick]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb Pixeleater:

I like the BC but the Leica hood does leave much to be desired. I ordered the Overgaard hood because it screws in but getting tired of the long wait and no communication from his sales front. I may cancel and look to this solution instead.

You need to open a paypal dispute, that‘s when they start communicating.

[Capuccino-Muffin]

17 hours ago, michael_b said:

I have a simple solution for the shade problem. Original shade is back in the box. I bought a step-up ring 43-46 and a JJC shade with 46 mm thread. Looks quite good, has less weight and I can use my 46 mm filters.

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This isn’t an aesthetically nice solution, but only practical. The Bayonet hoods are attached from bellow the filter ring for a reason. I would rather use my lens without filter than adding to its length.

It also fragilizes the whole lens, passing any shock directly through the whole construction instead of being limited to the hood only. Your hood has zero capacity of shock absorption, being rather a transmitor. This is the kind of solution that will cause a lens to develop a wobble.

[pedaes]

36 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said:

This is the kind of solution that will cause a lens to develop a wobble.

There are plenty of Leica lenses that are supplied with a screw-on or built-in hood.

[colint544]

 Three years ago, the strap on my M Monochrom failed. The split ring had worked its way round the camera strap lug, and the camera slipped off my shoulder onto concrete. Wasn't fast enough to catch it.

The 50 Summilux ASPH black chrome was on the camera at the time. The hood appears to have absorbed all of the impact. It's quite deformed at one point on the circumference. The lens and camera have been fine since, the rangefinder is still accurate.

I reckon that if it had been the standard 50 Summilux ASPH, non-cosmetic damage might have occurred to either the camera, the lens, or both.

So now I just always use the hood. It's a great big piece of brass, and I think it saved me a lot of money in repairs. I reverse mount it when I'm not shooting with the camera, and use the plastic cap. The fancy metal one stays in the box.  

I'm not a big user of filters. I occasionally use an ND filter, and when I do, I accept that I can't use the hood. 

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[Capuccino-Muffin]

1 hour ago, pedaes said:

There are plenty of Leica lenses that are supplied with a screw-on or built-in hood.

A simple analysis will tell you which is good and which is bad. The new Leica lenses are i deed screw-on, but not on the filter, which is the least good solution. If you want your lens to develop a wobble, then by all means screw chinese hoods over your filters. 
 

[Capuccino-Muffin]

1 hour ago, colint544 said:

 Three years ago, the strap on my M Monochrom failed. The split ring had worked its way round the camera strap lug, and the camera slipped off my shoulder onto concrete. Wasn't fast enough to catch it.

The 50 Summilux ASPH black chrome was on the camera at the time. The hood appears to have absorbed all of the impact. It's quite deformed at one point on the circumference. The lens and camera have been fine since, the rangefinder is still accurate.

I reckon that if it had been the standard 50 Summilux ASPH, non-cosmetic damage might have occurred to either the camera, the lens, or both.

So now I just always use the hood. It's a great big piece of brass, and I think it saved me a lot of money in repairs. I reverse mount it when I'm not shooting with the camera, and use the plastic cap. The fancy metal one stays in the box.  

I'm not a big user of filters. I occasionally use an ND filter, and when I do, I accept that I can't use the hood. 

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Indeed, a Bayonet hood is the best possible shock absorber. Have you had a screwed-on cheap chinese (yes, that includes overgaard), your lens would have been toast. 
 

[pedaes]

26 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said:

a Bayonet hood

Forgot to say welcome to the Forum.

I don't think Leica do bayonet hoods (see Zeiss and CV). I think you have a clip-on hood.

Leica have of course used a screw in (to a Leica filter) lenshood themselves in the recent past.

I also think any ventilated hood however attached would absorb energy if it were the first point of contact.

Edited April 21, 2021 by pedaes

[Pixeleater]

39 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said:

Indeed, a Bayonet hood is the best possible shock absorber. Have you had a screwed-on cheap chinese (yes, that includes overgaard), your lens would have been toast. 
 

What is your experience with the Overgaard hood?

I wonder what testing (Brinell, Rockwell, or Webster Tests) would reveal about the use of aluminum for hoods and their capacity for shock absorption? The attachment method is also a factor in its ability to withstand punishment. Shouldn't a screw-in version withstand the shock of impact better than one which relies on two pinch points? (By screw-in I'm not referring to a hood that is pull-out and lockable like some M lenses.)

Just the other day, the world stopped spinning, one end of a rock n roll strap came loose from my SL2-S with M 28 f/1.4 lens, and the camera dropped about 60 cm onto a wood composite deck. Fortunately, both camera and lens are fine. I believe the Leica screw on hood played a part in protecting the lens.

 

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34 minutes ago, Pixeleater said:

What is your experience with the Overgaard hood?

I wonder what testing (Brinell, Rockwell, or Webster Tests) would reveal about the use of aluminum for hoods and their capacity for shock absorption? The attachment method is also a factor in its ability to withstand punishment. Shouldn't a screw-in version withstand the shock of impact better than one which relies on two pinch points? (By screw-in I'm not referring to a hood that is pull-out and lockable like some M lenses.)

Just the other day, the world stopped spinning, one end of a rock n roll strap came loose from my SL2-S with M 28 f/1.4 lens, and the camera dropped about 60 cm onto a wood composite deck. Fortunately, both camera and lens are fine. I believe the Leica screw on hood played a part in protecting the lens.

 

 In that moment - I'll bet you did see your world flash before your eyes - glad your gear is OK

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2 hours ago, pedaes said:

I also think any ventilated hood however attached would absorb energy if it were the first point of contact.

They do. Whether they are made in Germany, in China or anywhere else. Happened to my a couple of times (non-Leica lenses, cheap Chinese hoods - actually so thin that they are quite good at absorbing energy). Bent hoods in the bin (although to be fair it took a few minutes to unscrew one of them), lenses salvaged, new hoods on. And no wobble at all.

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[farnz]

Is it time for hoods with crumple zones to protect lenses?  ☁️💢☁️  

Pete.

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When ones 50mm Summilux-M ASPH (attached to M10M) slips off the shoulder & hits a concrete floor...

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