Csacwp Posted February 5, 2018 Share #1 Posted February 5, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I’m considering getting a used Black Chrome 35mm summicron asph instead of buying the latest version new. Is the difference from the updated aperture blades really noticable, and are there any other differences? Do Black Chrome owners have any complaints? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wattsy Posted February 5, 2018 Share #2 Posted February 5, 2018 I think it's something you have to test for yourself. Those who have bought the newer Summicron will say that the difference is quite noticeable, blah blah and those with the older version will say that there are no optical differences, blah blah. I have the Black Chrome version and don't have "any complaints" but then I've never tried the newer version. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted February 5, 2018 Share #3 Posted February 5, 2018 Besides the number of aperture blades is the new screw-on hood vs. the prior version that clips on. At least one review I read said the new version's hood blocks a little more of the finder. I have several newer models with the latest type screw-on hoods (35mmf1.4 FLE, 21mm Super Elmar, 24mm f3.8 Elmar) and I like them quite a bit. Having used both the black anodized and chrome finished prior 35mm ASPH, the chrome version is a good deal heavier. I definitely preferred the black finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Posted February 5, 2018 Share #4 Posted February 5, 2018 I think it's something you have to test for yourself. Those who have bought the newer Summicron will say that the difference is quite noticeable, blah blah and those with the older version will say that there are no optical differences, blah blah. I have the Black Chrome version and don't have "any complaints" but then I've never tried the newer version. Ditto Ian‘s comments, exactly. Aesthetics. The black chrome version perfectly matches the black chrome of my my M-A and M246, and the red lettering is so Leica. I prefer the snap-on black chromed brass hood, also, so classic. Performance. No complaints. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted February 5, 2018 I've just finished reading what few reviews I could find on the Asph v2... some say it has a little more resolution wide open, some say it has smoother bokeh, and some say that the colors are a tiny bit warmer. It's really confusing. I have the opportunity to buy a used but mint Black Chrome for $3900, brand new Asph v1 for $2750, or a brand new Asph v2 for $3150. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted February 5, 2018 Share #6 Posted February 5, 2018 Sorry, I am at a loss. Usually black Leica lenses for the M uare anodized. Some are black paint. For „silver“ lenses there is a difference between silver chrome (No. 11882 - former version) and silver anodized (No. 11674 - current version) for the 35mm Summicron asph. Can anyone tell me whether there is a difference of a black „chrome“ and a black anodized version for the 35mm Summicron asph. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted February 5, 2018 Share #7 Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Can anyone tell me whether there is a difference of a black „chrome“ and a black anodized version for the 35mm Summicron asph. ? Yes, the black chrome was a 2015 limited edition of 500 lenses in brass with a black chrome finish. It is heavier than the black anodised aluminium of the standard lens. Info here and image of the lens in question. Edited February 5, 2018 by wattsy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted February 5, 2018 Share #8 Posted February 5, 2018 I have the opportunity to buy a used but mint Black Chrome for $3900, brand new Asph v1 for $2750, or a brand new Asph v2 for $3150. The Black chrome sounds a bit overpriced to me (though I haven't been keeping up with recent prices). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted February 5, 2018 Share #9 Posted February 5, 2018 This is for "reportage in SA" if my memory is right. I believe that Leica is constantly improving the optics and (probably just as importantly) the coatings of the lenses to meet the changing atmospheric realities we face. I personally would opt for the newest, in black paint, so as to keep the weight down (every ounce counts) and take advantage of 20 years of progress in manufacture. Don't get me wrong: I love the previous 35 f2 ASPH and have taken 90% of my Leica shots with that lens; but if making the purchase now I'd go with the current version. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Posted February 5, 2018 Share #10 Posted February 5, 2018 For the black chrome, I paid $3150 in 2015 when it was launched, and now the price keeps inching north. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubkins Posted April 20, 2018 Share #11 Posted April 20, 2018 I'm not sure if this has been answered elsewhere, but I was considering a 2014 model 35mm Summicron ASPH and saw the limited 11689 hood and was wondering if a similar hood existed for the model I may buy? I don't like the original hood that much so was just curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted April 20, 2018 Share #12 Posted April 20, 2018 I'm not sure if this has been answered elsewhere, but I was considering a 2014 model 35mm Summicron ASPH and saw the limited 11689 hood and was wondering if a similar hood existed for the model I may buy? I don't like the original hood that much so was just curious. Maybe you can buy "vented hood" here: http://www.overgaard.dk/Thorsten-von-Overgaard-Gallery-Store-Hardware-for-Photography-Leica-35mm-Summilux-f14-FLE-Ventilated-Lens-Shade.html This thread below gives some ideas concerning hood for 35mm Summicron in general (beside 12524/12526): https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245276-how-to-stop-clip-on-round-hood-from-rotating/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted September 16, 2021 Share #13 Posted September 16, 2021 On 2/5/2018 at 10:06 PM, Ernest said: For the black chrome, I paid $3150 in 2015 when it was launched, and now the price keeps inching north. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk One on Red Dot Cameras London https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/m-lenses/17203-leica-summilux-m-35mm-f20-asph-6-bit-black-chrome-boxed.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreeshp Posted September 16, 2021 Share #14 Posted September 16, 2021 Values for this lens seem to be over double what they retailed for originally. Sellers cite the recent auction for one of these that ended up with a hammer price of 6600 Euros. Was this auction a one-off outlier or is that the new normal price for all of these black chrome summicrons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted September 17, 2021 Share #15 Posted September 17, 2021 I didn't see that auction. I guess the limited edition lenses / cameras always make money over time. This little lens is very handsome though lol. A bit like the black paint version too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy_action Posted September 17, 2021 Share #16 Posted September 17, 2021 It seems like the black chrome Summicron was a better investment than the not-so 'limited' 50 Summilux launched at the same time.... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted November 10, 2021 Share #17 Posted November 10, 2021 Saw the auction result today, was very surprised, positively, gonna hold on to mine longer for a while Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoM3 Posted November 10, 2021 Share #18 Posted November 10, 2021 I wouldn't lay for that price other than aesthetics - the new ASPH II is sharper at infinity and resolving power for modern Leica sensors with more megapi kles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 10, 2021 Share #19 Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, overexposed said: Saw the auction result today, was very surprised, positively, gonna hold on to mine longer for a while I had no idea these were in demand. I've been of thinking of selling mine and thought it might be worth £2k if I'm lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 10, 2021 Share #20 Posted November 10, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 2:26 PM, SiOnara said: One on Red Dot Cameras London https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/m-lenses/17203-leica-summilux-m-35mm-f20-asph-6-bit-black-chrome-boxed.html Can you remember what the asking price was? The page no longer exists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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