Echo63 Posted January 13, 2018 Share #41 Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Mine just came in the mail today. Made in Canada version. I like it so far. Still need to shoot a bit more with it. Do wish it had a focusing tab on it though. Just get yourself a Lenstab - I think i have the smallest version on mine. my lens is a bit stiff, but the tab really helps to focus it quickly. I love my 90 T-E (1976 canada version) It does flare quite badly when shot into the light, so keep a hood on it (not the genuine leica one, but a cheap eBay screw in one) it can have some nice effects when the flare is used carefully (with live view) I think it may be due to a bit of internal haze - I will eventually send it for a CLA and my 90 M Rokkor (the complete opposite - flare resistant and very contrasty) in to be repaired. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This cat is a frequent visitor to our yard - theres a little PS/LR done here, but nothing that would break the ethics rules at the newspaper where i used to work - the eyes are really that blue. Edited January 13, 2018 by Echo63 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This cat is a frequent visitor to our yard - theres a little PS/LR done here, but nothing that would break the ethics rules at the newspaper where i used to work - the eyes are really that blue. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/280597-90mm-tele-elmarit-thin/?do=findComment&comment=3439029'>More sharing options...
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vaotix Posted January 13, 2018 Share #42 Posted January 13, 2018 Just get yourself a Lenstab - I think i have the smallest version on mine. my lens is a bit stiff, but the tab really helps to focus it quickly. I love my 90 T-E (1976 canada version) It does flare quite badly when shot into the light, so keep a hood on it (not the genuine leica one, but a cheap eBay screw in one) it can have some nice effects when the flare is used carefully (with live view) I think it may be due to a bit of internal haze - I will eventually send it for a CLA and my 90 M Rokkor (the complete opposite - flare resistant and very contrasty) in to be repaired. BEN36977.jpg This cat is a frequent visitor to our yard - theres a little PS/LR done here, but nothing that would break the ethics rules at the newspaper where i used to work - the eyes are really that blue. BEN44688.jpg Thanks. I'm gonna look into a lenstab. Mine is a 1981 Canada-made version. Haven't done much shooting with it yet. I'm also looking into a hood. The Leica ones are stupid expensive. Gotta keep an eye out for a cheaper one. Love that photo of the cat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted January 14, 2018 Share #43 Posted January 14, 2018 I just tested my 90 TE out..and even though it has slight haze and a little oil on the blades..I had a hard time getting it to flare..in other words..not any more flare prone than any other lens I have..and actually much less than some... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 14, 2018 Share #44 Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) I just tested my 90 TE out..and even though it has slight haze and a little oil on the blades..I had a hard time getting it to flare..in other words..not any more flare prone than any other lens I have..and actually much less than some... Just put a high light source as the sun or a halogen lamp into the frame or just outside the frame and you will see a lot of flare unless you use a large hood plus your hand or a hat to make some more shade eventually. Edited January 14, 2018 by lct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted January 14, 2018 Share #45 Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Just shot these..90mm TE.. #1 in aft sun streaming in thru the left... #2 Halogen lamp...would flare very slightly when out of range near the corner of frame..but no more than a thousand other lenses would.. Really had a hard time getting this one to flare..even had dust on front element..as hasn't been used or cleaned in years.. Edited January 14, 2018 by tsleica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 14, 2018 Share #46 Posted January 14, 2018 Interesting indeed. Is it a lens made in Germany? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted January 14, 2018 Share #47 Posted January 14, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) According to the serial number lists in the Leica-wiki my ELW copy (3452***) is from the last production year 1987. If tsleica bought his new in 88 (post #4) then it’s most likely from the same run? I’ll try to take a few frames tomorrow sans hood - from memory they’ll be similarly flare-less...... and try to have a closer look at the interior baffles etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted January 14, 2018 Share #48 Posted January 14, 2018 In my experience flare as strong as in the picture in post #41 comes from extensive haze in the lens. Before I had it cleaned, my DR Summicron-50 flared so badly that it could not be shot into the light: after having it cleaned it has no problem. Virtually the same thing happened with my Summilux 50 pre-ASPH. I haven't had any flare issues with my Tele-Elmarit 90. I don't have any skill in examining a lens for hazing... _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Instagram: @mitchalland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted January 14, 2018 Share #49 Posted January 14, 2018 My TE is Canadian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 15, 2018 Share #50 Posted January 15, 2018 My TE is Canadian. Then you have a collectors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted January 15, 2018 Share #51 Posted January 15, 2018 Agree that pattern of flare looked like haze on the elements. In my experience flare as strong as in the picture in post #41 comes from extensive haze in the lens. Before I had it cleaned, my DR Summicron-50 flared so badly that it could not be shot into the light: after having it cleaned it has no problem. Virtually the same thing happened with my Summilux 50 pre-ASPH. I haven't had any flare issues with my Tele-Elmarit 90. I don't have any skill in examining a lens for hazing... _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Instagram: @mitchalland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted January 15, 2018 Share #52 Posted January 15, 2018 Then you have a collectors So rare a version...made in an extremely limited amounts..the rare Canadian 90mm TE..that does not flare..lol.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 15, 2018 Share #53 Posted January 15, 2018 So rare a version...made in an extremely limited amounts..the rare Canadian 90mm TE..that does not flare..lol.. I am glad for you but i would not render a service to possible users in letting them believe that the Tele-Elmarit "thin" 90/2.8 is flare free, at least the Canadian version. I have no experience with the German version though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozytripper Posted January 15, 2018 Share #54 Posted January 15, 2018 no flare on mine when shot directly into a light source. German lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted January 15, 2018 Share #55 Posted January 15, 2018 I am glad for you but i would not render a service to possible users in letting them believe that the Tele-Elmarit "thin" 90/2.8 is flare free, at least the Canadian version. Go Canada...! At least for the for the impossible to find..non-flare ver2.015.. If tsleica bought his new in 88 (post #4) then it’s most likely from the same run? Mine is #306*151...don't know what year that was made.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 15, 2018 Share #56 Posted January 15, 2018 no flare on mine when shot directly into a light source. German lens Just found a German version as well so i will check this little miracle by myself if any. Don't ask me if i hold my breath though... Not that i challenge your good faith neither that of tsleica of course but i have never seen a flare free lens in 30+ years of photography and my flare tests are not gentle at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 15, 2018 Share #57 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) There are two kinds of photographer - those who have gotten flare from a 90TE, and those who will. Pretty simple little example from my "acid-test for flare machine" - my dining room chandelier. As I posted way back on page 1, demonstrating the cause/source (internal barrel reflections), what really counts is bright light just outside the picture area - NOT necessarily a bright light IN the picture. And not a haze problem (this lens is very clear otherwise) - the dark unflared strip across the top of the 90mm picture is signature for internal reflections off camera/lens structure, not glass reflections or haze. Overall scene (w/ 35mm), then 90 TE (Can. 320xxxx, 1982), then 75 Summarit f/2.4 ........ (BTW 306xxxx is a 1980 lens) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Just for the record, I have used/owned about 6-7 different copies of the 90 TE "thin" over the past 17 years - they all did this in this (or similar) situations. It is a particular (but not all that uncommon) situation - and if you haven't tried it, you haven't tried it. OTOH, with care taken to watch the lighting, they perform just fine - one was a part of my kit when my second-place finish beat out TIME magazine (and Nat Geo's third-place effort) in this little contest (see spreads 2, 34 and 37 for 90TE shots): http://www.poyi.org/69/34/index.php The lens is good enough and small enough that I work around this little quirk. Edited January 15, 2018 by adan 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Just for the record, I have used/owned about 6-7 different copies of the 90 TE "thin" over the past 17 years - they all did this in this (or similar) situations. It is a particular (but not all that uncommon) situation - and if you haven't tried it, you haven't tried it. OTOH, with care taken to watch the lighting, they perform just fine - one was a part of my kit when my second-place finish beat out TIME magazine (and Nat Geo's third-place effort) in this little contest (see spreads 2, 34 and 37 for 90TE shots): http://www.poyi.org/69/34/index.php The lens is good enough and small enough that I work around this little quirk. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/280597-90mm-tele-elmarit-thin/?do=findComment&comment=3440864'>More sharing options...
rnl Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share #58 Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) Did some pixel peeping and realized that I could not keep the camera steady enough at shutter speeds less than 1/125 with this lens. I am coming to Leica from the Canon system (1dxmkii and 5dsr and EF stabilized lenses) and could take Canon exposures down to 1/4 second without any blur. I thought that there was something wrong with the camera or lens until I took the attached with a tripod...iso 200 at 4 seconds Curiously, my Canadian version kept stopping for Molson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 16, 2018 by richardlipow Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/280597-90mm-tele-elmarit-thin/?do=findComment&comment=3441080'>More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted January 16, 2018 Share #59 Posted January 16, 2018 Agree this test (light source outside the image area) is likely caused by internal reflections in the lens barrel. I was previously referring to the image shot with the light source in the image and significant “ghosting” flare around the light source. BTW the V5 Summicron 50 is also highly susceptible to flare from sources outside the image area. One of its least desirable characteristic to me. There are two kinds of photographer - those who have gotten flare from a 90TE, and those who will. Pretty simple little example from my "acid-test for flare machine" - my dining room chandelier. As I posted way back on page 1, demonstrating the cause/source (internal barrel reflections), what really counts is bright light just outside the picture area - NOT necessarily a bright light IN the picture. And not a haze problem (this lens is very clear otherwise) - the dark unflared strip across the top of the 90mm picture is signature for internal reflections off camera/lens structure, not glass reflections or haze. Overall scene (w/ 35mm), then 90 TE (Can. 320xxxx, 1982), then 75 Summarit f/2.4 ........ (BTW 306xxxx is a 1980 lens) teflarescene.jpg TEflare90.jpg TEflare75.jpg Just for the record, I have used/owned about 6-7 different copies of the 90 TE "thin" over the past 17 years - they all did this in this (or similar) situations. It is a particular (but not all that uncommon) situation - and if you haven't tried it, you haven't tried it. OTOH, with care taken to watch the lighting, they perform just fine - one was a part of my kit when my second-place finish beat out TIME magazine (and Nat Geo's third-place effort) in this little contest (see spreads 2, 34 and 37 for 90TE shots): http://www.poyi.org/69/34/index.php The lens is good enough and small enough that I work around this little quirk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted January 16, 2018 Share #60 Posted January 16, 2018 I think I'm gonna get a Thambar..and test it for flare.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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