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. A good photographer can take a good photograph with any camera.

And I do :)

 

I have many ways to take pictures weather it be film or digital, I just happen to prefer to use cameras with bigger sensors i.e. MF and LF.........Thats why I am looking at the X1D, bigger sensor and the wonderful Hasselblad colours

 

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I understand the concept, but I disagree, in a way, with the statement that a better camera doesn't make one a better photographer.  I go back to my days as a serious woodworker.     Several years a

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Just updating from previous post. Did some further testing of the X1d using my ancient R lens, a 50mm Summicron of 70s vintage. It’s old, rickety, fungus, etc., but still performs wonderfully. Usin

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The X1D lenses are better than most of the Pentax lenses, especially wide open. The older Pentax lenses have some CA and are lower in contrast. But when push comes to shove the files from either are s

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Try printing a raw file from a Nikon 5000 4 feet wide

 

 

Apart from commercial applications which is not the conversation - if a photo truly is worthy of being printed 4ft wide then it will make no difference what it was shot on.

 

I saw the Capa landing photos printed about 3m high and they shook me to the core.

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Apart from color........and a extra one year warranty is there a difference between the black and silver X1D.........theres a ~2k difference in price

 

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As an experiment, I tried the X1D M adaptor with all the M lenses I own yesterday. In all honesty there wasn't a single lens I'd say I'd ever use on the X1D. All had black corners. The APO 90 was probably had the least vignetting. The Noctilux was the worst. *Maybe* you could use a few *if* you were cropping to XPan or 1:1. I'd say the Noctilux was unusable in any crop.

 

Best off with either natives, other MF lenses or Canon TS lenses.

 

I quickly tried the : WATE, MATE, 28 Elmarit ASPH, CV 35mm 1.7, 50mm Summilux ASPH, Noctilux, CV50 1.5ASPH, CV 75mm 1.8 Helliar, 90 cron and 135APO.

 

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As an experiment, I tried the X1D M adaptor with all the M lenses I own yesterday. In all honesty there wasn't a single lens I'd say I'd ever use on the X1D. All had black corners. The APO 90 was probably had the least vignetting. The Noctilux was the worst. *Maybe* you could use a few *if* you were cropping to XPan or 1:1. I'd say the Noctilux was unusable in any crop.

 

Best off with either natives, other MF lenses or Canon TS lenses.

 

I quickly tried the : WATE, MATE, 28 Elmarit ASPH, CV 35mm 1.7, 50mm Summilux ASPH, Noctilux, CV50 1.5ASPH, CV 75mm 1.8 Helliar, 90 cron and 135APO.

 

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Thanks for that Gordon. Now there is no need for me to keep any of my M lenses so I will give them all to Raymond and stick with MF

 

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As an experiment, I tried the X1D M adaptor with all the M lenses I own yesterday. In all honesty there wasn't a single lens I'd say I'd ever use on the X1D. All had black corners. The APO 90 was probably had the least vignetting. The Noctilux was the worst. *Maybe* you could use a few *if* you were cropping to XPan or 1:1. I'd say the Noctilux was unusable in any crop.

 

Best off with either natives, other MF lenses or Canon TS lenses.

 

I quickly tried the : WATE, MATE, 28 Elmarit ASPH, CV 35mm 1.7, 50mm Summilux ASPH, Noctilux, CV50 1.5ASPH, CV 75mm 1.8 Helliar, 90 cron and 135APO.

 

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Some additional examples here. Likely fun to play with. But not for me (either).

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As an experiment, I tried the X1D M adaptor with all the M lenses I own yesterday. In all honesty there wasn't a single lens I'd say I'd ever use on the X1D. All had black corners. The APO 90 was probably had the least vignetting. The Noctilux was the worst. *Maybe* you could use a few *if* you were cropping to XPan or 1:1. I'd say the Noctilux was unusable in any crop.

 

Best off with either natives, other MF lenses or Canon TS lenses.

 

I quickly tried the : WATE, MATE, 28 Elmarit ASPH, CV 35mm 1.7, 50mm Summilux ASPH, Noctilux, CV50 1.5ASPH, CV 75mm 1.8 Helliar, 90 cron and 135APO.

 

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Now there is no reason to get an adapter. I never really liked to use adapters in the first place. I prefer native lenses. I am really interested in the upcoming 21 and the zoom for the X1D.

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A good photographer can take a good photograph with any camera.

 

 

Of course, this was not my point. It was about the mantra: another camera, this or that camera, "wont't make you a better photographer." 

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As an experiment, I tried the X1D M adaptor with all the M lenses I own yesterday. In all honesty there wasn't a single lens I'd say I'd ever use on the X1D. All had black corners. The APO 90 was probably had the least vignetting. The Noctilux was the worst. *Maybe* you could use a few *if* you were cropping to XPan or 1:1. I'd say the Noctilux was unusable in any crop.

 

Best off with either natives, other MF lenses or Canon TS lenses.

 

I quickly tried the : WATE, MATE, 28 Elmarit ASPH, CV 35mm 1.7, 50mm Summilux ASPH, Noctilux, CV50 1.5ASPH, CV 75mm 1.8 Helliar, 90 cron and 135APO.

 

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Thanks, Gordon.  You just saved me $180, which I can use as a tiny down payment on an XCD 120.  Noctilux, anyone?

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I understand the concept, but I disagree, in a way, with the statement that a better camera doesn't make one a better photographer.  I go back to my days as a serious woodworker.  

 

Several years ago, my wife and I owned an antiques store, which she ran while I was out making money to support it.  Occasionally, a chair, a table, or some other piece of furniture would need repair work before we could put it out on the floor for sale.  When we first started in the business, we would hire that work done, but gradually, by observing the work of others, subscribing to a few publications, watching several DVDs (before YouTube), and with many hours of practice I gained the confidence needed to take on those repair projects myself.  It was fun, and it gave me the opportunity to do something creative while "saving" money by not having to hire professionals to do the work.

 

Before long, I convinced myself, and more importantly, my wife, that I should build a shop.  I did, and then I picked up a few basic tools - mostly Craftsman hand tools and Black and Decker power tools, an inexpensive table saw, a simple band saw, and an old shop lathe for turning.  All of those tools did the job they were supposed to do; I could saw a block of wood, shape it on the lathe, refine it with the hand tools, and eventually end up with a finished product that would serve as a replacement part for the broken one.  My reward was having my wife (and others) tell me convincingly that they could not distinguish the replaced part from the original.  

 

My confidence grew, and as it did my appetite for further learning and development also grew.  I subscribed to Fine Woodworking Magazine, I went to trade shows, I hung out with other craftsmen, and I discovered Highland Hardware in Atlanta, Georgia, a store with a mission to fan the flames of interest and excitement in the craft of woodworking.  I began to discover finer tools designed to do the same work that I was currently performing, but in a slightly different and more enjoyable manner.  There was something magical about those tools.  They were sharper, they felt better in my hands, they were made of quality materials, they looked better, they were built to last.  With better tools came improved skills and more confidence, and as they grew so did my passion for the "work."    

 

Things change, and fifteen years ago I moved to Florida and gave up my woodworking shop.  Needing another hobby, I took up photography.  Much safer and less expensive, so I thought.  Not exactly.

 

My first camera was a Nikon D70 that had a whopping 6.1MP sensor.  The surface of that camera is just a little sticky, but I still have it.  I have owned many cameras since the D70, and each one has made me a better photographer, because each one, with few exceptions, has have been sharper, has felt better in my hands, was made of quality materials, looked better, and was built to last, technological obsolescence notwithstanding.  

 

Just as I found with new and improved woodworking tools, each new camera refuels my passion for photography, and it is the passion that leads to improved skills and more confidence in the work.  I don't see that you can separate the tool from improvements in the end result.   

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My first Leica was the R4 back in 1985. It helped me become a better photographer. It just felt better in the hands and I was inspired to think more about what I was doing and trying to accomplish. FWIW

Bill

I guarantee your going to be a better photographer with your new Christmas present.........hell and if I am wrong you'll defiantly be a happier photographer, and if Im still wrong you will make someone else happy :) :) :)

 

I close to ordering mine, just trying to get a few more dollars out of Raymond first :) :) 

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Bill

I guarantee your going to be a better photographer with your new Christmas present.........hell and if I am wrong you'll defiantly be a happier photographer, and if Im still wrong you will make someone else happy :) :) :)

 

I close to ordering mine, just trying to get a few more dollars out of Raymond first :) :)

 

If nothing else, it adds another hole in my head to go with my S, SL, M10's and many lens.  :D

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If nothing else, it adds another hole in my head to go with my S, SL, M10's and many lens.  :D

Keep the S and X1D and bin the rest Bill.............FF just doesn't cut it anymore :) :)

That will get them jumping in the bleachers :) :) 

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