IkarusJohn Posted September 27, 2017 Share #81 Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) exactlyHow? Edit - let me elaborate. Your Noctilux is a 50mm lens, whether mounted on your TL2, SL, S or your field camera. It’s always a 50mm lens. On your TL2 it gives the field of view of a 75 in 135mm terms because the sensor is smaller. It’s still a 50. Your 70 Summarit-S on your SL will give the field of view of a 70mm lens. On the S, the field of view is wider, because the sensor is bigger, but it’s still a 70mm lens. The focal length is a factor of the lens, not the camera or the sensor size. Similarly, the widest f-stop of your lens is a factor of the lens, not the sensor. The “f number” of the lens is the ratio of the focal length of the lens, divided by the diameter of the aperture. Neither changes with the sensor size. So, the Noctilux wide open on the TL2 is still 50mm @ f/0.95, it’s just that the sensor only captures the central 2/3 of the image circle. Edited September 27, 2017 by IkarusJohn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Exodies Posted September 27, 2017 Share #82 Posted September 27, 2017 Perhaps you’re not acquainted with Neil’s supernatural auto-correct. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted September 27, 2017 Share #83 Posted September 27, 2017 How? Edit - let me elaborate. Your Noctilux is a 50mm lens, whether mounted on your TL2, SL, S or your field camera. It’s always a 50mm lens. On your TL2 it gives the field of view of a 75 in 135mm terms because the sensor is smaller. It’s still a 50. Your 70 Summarit-S on your SL will give the field of view of a 70mm lens. On the S, the field of view is wider, because the sensor is bigger, but it’s still a 70mm lens. The focal length is a factor of the lens, not the camera or the sensor size. Similarly, the widest f-stop of your lens is a factor of the lens, not the sensor. The “f number” of the lens is the ratio of the focal length of the lens, divided by the diameter of the aperture. Neither changes with the sensor size. So, the Noctilux wide open on the TL2 is still 50mm @ f/0.95, it’s just that the sensor only captures the central 2/3 of the image circle. John thats exactly what I was trying to say .......so thanks for that. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted September 27, 2017 Share #84 Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) I think you have to add that the depth of field is comparable to a 1.4etc. lens when cropped to a 2/3 sensor (but it absorbs as much light as a 0.95) Edited September 27, 2017 by otto.f 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted September 27, 2017 Share #85 Posted September 27, 2017 Perhaps you’re not acquainted with Neil’s supernatural auto-correct. I am... Have seen it in action before... I think you have to add that the depth of field is comparable to a 1.4etc. lens when cropped to a 2/3 sensor (but it absorbs as much light as a 0.95) Indeed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linford Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #86 Posted September 27, 2017 A Summilux 35 would be so big it would block the rangefinder window. I have grown used to the 50mm Nocti bumping into the window. Do you think it would be substantially worse? I also suppose that the EVF on the camera would mitigate the issue. I often use the EVF with my Noctilux because lower light difficulty focusing the RF and also because focus peaking helps me to better nail the thin focal plane of the Noctilux. Cheers--lt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 27, 2017 Share #87 Posted September 27, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have grown used to the 50mm Nocti bumping into the window. Do you think it would be substantially worse? I also suppose that the EVF on the camera would mitigate the issue. I often use the EVF with my Noctilux because lower light difficulty focusing the RF and also because focus peaking helps me to better nail the thin focal plane of the Noctilux. Cheers--lt I believe it would be bigger especially a hood for a 35. I primarily use the rangefinder viewfinder. The reason I bought an M. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linford Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #88 Posted September 27, 2017 I have grown used to the 50mm Nocti bumping into the window. Do you think it would be substantially worse? I also suppose that the EVF on the camera would mitigate the issue. I often use the EVF with my Noctilux because lower light difficulty focusing the RF and also because focus peaking helps me to better nail the thin focal plane of the Noctilux. Cheers--lt Sorry--I just answered my own question The 1.2/35mm Nokton is nearly the exact diameter (62mm) of the Noctilux-50 and about 50mm shorter. So, I would have no issue with that size and RF window. LOL--of course this all just chatter as there is no indication a 35mm Moctilux is in the works.--lt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27, 2017 Share #89 Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) No issue with that size and RF window perhaps but what about the blockage of 35mm framelines? Would be much worse than 50mm ones i suspect but i have no experience with big 35mm M lenses at all. Edited September 27, 2017 by lct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted September 27, 2017 Share #90 Posted September 27, 2017 Perhaps you’re not acquainted with Neil’s supernatural auto-correct. Paired with the fabulous MTLLRS (Magical thinking Leica Lens rendition System), otherwise known as the Leica Glow, which is not to be mistaken with mere lens aberrations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 27, 2017 Share #91 Posted September 27, 2017 Here is an image through a Leica optical viewfinder, showing how much the Zeiss ZM 35 f/1.4 blocks the 35mm frame: 18% ignoring the hood, almost 25% with the hood. https://leicarumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Alternative-silver-lens-hood-for-Zeiss-35mm-f1.4-Distagon-T-ZM-lens-viewfinder-obstruction.jpg 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 27, 2017 Share #92 Posted September 27, 2017 ... of course this all just chatter as there is no indication a 35mm Moctilux is in the works.--lt "35 mm Moctilux"? That would be a HyperPrime copy would it? Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 27, 2017 Share #93 Posted September 27, 2017 A Summilux 35 would be so big it would block the rangefinder window. Funny, I have two of them, they both works perfectly fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted September 27, 2017 Share #94 Posted September 27, 2017 Here is an image through a Leica optical viewfinder, showing how much the Zeiss ZM 35 f/1.4 blocks the 35mm frame: 18% ignoring the hood, almost 25% with the hood. https://leicarumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Alternative-silver-lens-hood-for-Zeiss-35mm-f1.4-Distagon-T-ZM-lens-viewfinder-obstruction.jpg Looking at the picture you just posted, it docent block anything. The only bit you need is the small patch in the middle of the RF and you picture clearly ilistrates it doesn't impede into the focusing patch Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 27, 2017 Share #95 Posted September 27, 2017 Funny, I have two of them, they both works perfectly fine. I meant Noctilux and you damn well know that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted September 27, 2017 Share #96 Posted September 27, 2017 I meant Noctilux and you damn well know that. hahahahahahah 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupdefoudre Posted September 28, 2017 Share #97 Posted September 28, 2017 I meant Noctilux and you damn well know that. But, having now seen the word 'Moctilux' I like it -- so will surely find a use for it. Thanks, Linford! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted October 19, 2017 Share #98 Posted October 19, 2017 Not interested. 75 APO is great enough. I tend to value small lenses and the only 1.4 I own is 50 Lux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trystero Posted November 29, 2017 Share #99 Posted November 29, 2017 It's officially released today. No price tag yet, as far as I can see. http://blog.leica-camera.com/2017/11/29/introducing-leica-noctilux-m-75mm-f1-25-asph/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted November 29, 2017 Share #100 Posted November 29, 2017 11.900 Euro .... haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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