Simon Posted January 28, 2019 Share #461 Posted January 28, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but I saw a video comparing four 50 mm lenses and the 7 Artisans was by far the worst, especially wide open. Far too soft and with noticeable colour cast. At f/5.6 it began to look decent, but then why bother with the f/1.1 bragging rights? The VM Nokton he showed seemed to be where the value proposition sits if you want quality at a decent price. I personally find Matt Granger extremely annoying to listen to (am I the only one), but this is nonetheless the video I’m referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09qFStSP-AM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted January 28, 2019 Share #462 Posted January 28, 2019 Comparing f/1.1 to f/1.4 really? I stopped watching when i saw that. Did he compare f/1.4 to f/1.4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naampje Posted January 28, 2019 Share #463 Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Simon said: Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but I saw a video comparing four 50 mm lenses and the 7 Artisans was by far the worst, especially wide open. Far too soft and with noticeable colour cast. At f/5.6 it began to look decent, but then why bother with the f/1.1 bragging rights? The VM Nokton he showed seemed to be where the value proposition sits if you want quality at a decent price. I personally find Matt Granger extremely annoying to listen to (am I the only one), but this is nonetheless the video I’m referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09qFStSP-AM Sometimes reviews and fora are like Twitter, baseless opinions all over the place and with the utmost eagerness for negativity. Not directed at Simon but why not stick to really technical, professional views like the one from Erwin Puts for instance. I will not quote him, it's a small but great review; http://photo.imx.nl/blog/files/8482d7cd2a98a633910c47415b8d35ff-92.html Or a review from Thorsten Overgaard, about how he feels about the lens, compares it to a Noctilux and without going into technical stuff gives a nice review and comparison. http://www.overgaard.dk/7artisans-for-Leica-M-rangefinder-and-Sony-Canon-and-Fujifilm-50mm-f-1-1-Sonnar-review-and-user-report.html My ten cents? It's dirt cheap, and really well build for it's price. I would use it in certain portraits or very dark circumstances, it has a to me a busy looking bokeh which gives it a bit of action in the background (nice with kids), I like the sharp lines in it for instance, and would close it more for a peaceful composition (starting at 1.4) The whole internet screaming; 'It is soft at 1.1!!!!!' Are clearly not getting the point. Buy the Noctilux and get a life (if you can still afford one Edited January 28, 2019 by Naampje 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 28, 2019 Share #464 Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Naampje said: Sometimes reviews and fora are like Twitter, baseless opinions all over the place and with the utmost eagerness for negativity. Not directed at Simon but why not stick to really technical, professional views like the one from Erwin Puts for instance. I will not quote him, it's a small but great review; http://photo.imx.nl/blog/files/8482d7cd2a98a633910c47415b8d35ff-92.html Or a review from Thorsten Overgaard, about how he feels about the lens, compares it to a Noctilux and without going into technical stuff gives a nice review and comparison. http://www.overgaard.dk/7artisans-for-Leica-M-rangefinder-and-Sony-Canon-and-Fujifilm-50mm-f-1-1-Sonnar-review-and-user-report.html My ten cents? It's dirt cheap, and really well build for it's price. I would use it in certain portraits or very dark circumstances, it has a to me a busy looking bokeh which gives it a bit of action in the background (nice with kids), I like the sharp lines in it for instance, and would close it more for a peaceful composition (starting at 1.4) The whole internet screaming; 'It is soft at 1.1!!!!!' Are clearly not getting the point. Buy the Noctilux and get a life (if you can still afford one Gee. You may be on to something here. $350.00 as opposed to $9,000.00 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naampje Posted January 28, 2019 Share #465 Posted January 28, 2019 @Jdlaing. No, 350,00? pffffffff that's for cheapskates, I ofcourse bought the GOLDEN version. That's 500.00. I know I know, it's not for everybody. Priorities. Really hope to run into some Leica aficionados and shock 'm beyond believe about my GOLDEN CHINESE lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Do you hear the angels singing while looking at this perfection? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Do you hear the angels singing while looking at this perfection? ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273821-7artisans-50mm-f11-leica-m-mount/?do=findComment&comment=3673183'>More sharing options...
Rus Posted January 28, 2019 Share #466 Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Naampje said: @Jdlaing. No, 350,00? pffffffff that's for cheapskates, I ofcourse bought the GOLDEN version. That's 500.00. I know I know, it's not for everybody. Priorities. Really hope to run into some Leica aficionados and shock 'm beyond believe about my GOLDEN CHINESE lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Do you hear the angels singing while looking at this perfection? Now get the M246 Jim Marshall edition Edited January 28, 2019 by Rus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naampje Posted January 29, 2019 Share #467 Posted January 29, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is hilarious. I love it, my new toy. I have never had anything faster than F2.0 so this is gonna be fun. Anybody out there still thinking of buying one, or the 28mm from 7Artisans, buy from Hamish Gill from 35MMC. He was gold to do business with. Great communication, great service. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273821-7artisans-50mm-f11-leica-m-mount/?do=findComment&comment=3673806'>More sharing options...
Hamish Gill Posted January 29, 2019 Share #468 Posted January 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, Naampje said: This is hilarious. I love it, my new toy. I have never had anything faster than F2.0 so this is gonna be fun. Anybody out there still thinking of buying one, or the 28mm from 7Artisans, buy from Hamish Gill from 35MMC. He was gold to do business with. Great communication, great service. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cheers! Nice to get some positive feedback on the website - I’m usually getting slated for some very minor technical shortcoming in something I’ve written... ha! ;) Good to do business with you too :) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted January 29, 2019 Share #469 Posted January 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, Naampje said: This is hilarious. I love it, my new toy. I have never had anything faster than F2.0 so this is gonna be fun. Anybody out there still thinking of buying one, or the 28mm from 7Artisans, buy from Hamish Gill from 35MMC. He was gold to do business with. Great communication, great service. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Haven't mounted mine (a dull, black one...) on the M8 yet, but it should be pretty good on the cropped sensor. It's the edges and corners that are rather mushy on FF. But it remains a pretty impressive feat at this price point. Ditto for their 35/2. Not equally impressed by what I have seen from the 28/1.4, so that's one I'll pass, despite my lens hoarding disorder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naampje Posted January 29, 2019 Share #470 Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) On 1/28/2019 at 5:01 PM, Rus said: Now get the M246 Jim Marshall edition Well.... Actually... Everybody's always talking about 'brassing' of the black paint versions, I would be curious how a Leica M Pure Brass ®️ would 'brass' after many years of hardcore use. I guess some parts would look polished, while other parts would be darker brass or marked/ scratched. Haven't found one yet online. Must have been produced by Leica at least ones? Marshall's version and a set of 35 models from "the hour glass" all have a clear laquer on them. A shame, because untreated brass only gets nicer used... Sorry oftopic... Edited January 29, 2019 by Naampje Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 29, 2019 Share #471 Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Naampje said: untreated brass only gets nicer used Makes me wonder why Leica doesn't offer a clear-coated brass model. Where the clear-coat wears away what is left is still brass! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I hope they call it a Pico Special Edition. Edited January 29, 2019 by pico 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I hope they call it a Pico Special Edition. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273821-7artisans-50mm-f11-leica-m-mount/?do=findComment&comment=3673989'>More sharing options...
Davidthefat Posted January 30, 2019 Share #472 Posted January 30, 2019 I wonder how the gold lens looks on a Titanium plated Leica. The gold doesn't look right on the silver in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naampje Posted January 30, 2019 Share #473 Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Davidthefat said: I wonder how the gold lens looks on a Titanium plated Leica. The gold doesn't look right on the silver in my opinion. I understand. That's why you need the diamond soft-release like I ordered. It's an acquired taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidthefat Posted February 1, 2019 Share #474 Posted February 1, 2019 Leica M6 with 7artisans 50mm f1.1 taken @ f11 on Porta 400 film. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273821-7artisans-50mm-f11-leica-m-mount/?do=findComment&comment=3675381'>More sharing options...
wetterzentrale Posted February 2, 2019 Share #475 Posted February 2, 2019 Hi I just received my 7 artisans 50mm / 1,1 through Amazon. On testing I noticed if I set lens detection to "Automatic" on the M 240, Live view only seems to work a few seconds, then the Leica comes up with the message "no lens connected". Live view then is no longer possible neither through the screen nor the EVF. Interestingly enough if I set lens detection to off our choose the lens manually, live view works ! I do believe this is due to the 6bit coding on the lens. On the 7artisans lens It looks much more glossy then the Leica 6bit coding (have two coded summicrons) and I believe the M240 simply can't read the code and therefore does not recognize a lens. Anybody else having experience with this issue ? Many thanks for your feedback ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naampje Posted February 3, 2019 Share #476 Posted February 3, 2019 Here om my Leica CL. A lot less hilarious on black. Still over the top. Anybody know if any of the UV/IR cut filters out there will fit with the original metal cap? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273821-7artisans-50mm-f11-leica-m-mount/?do=findComment&comment=3676931'>More sharing options...
stephengv Posted February 3, 2019 Share #477 Posted February 3, 2019 I have tried the B+W F-Pro, the Metal Lens cap wont fit. Anyone tried the B+W XS-Pro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naampje Posted February 3, 2019 Share #478 Posted February 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, stephengv said: I have tried the B+W F-Pro, the Metal Lens cap wont fit. Anyone tried the B+W XS-Pro? And how doesn’t it fit? Just too wide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephengv Posted February 3, 2019 Share #479 Posted February 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Naampje said: And how doesn’t it fit? Just too wide? Yup too wide. The lens cap is too loose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikozia Posted February 7, 2019 Share #480 Posted February 7, 2019 Ume. T w/50/1.1 at f/1.2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273821-7artisans-50mm-f11-leica-m-mount/?do=findComment&comment=3679675'>More sharing options...
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