TL lenses on SL

[scott kirkpatrick]

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Now it shows up fine. You can stabilize the footage in post. Davinci Resolve does a great job removing camera shake.

I'll get to that.  A thing I learned was to take the camera away from my eye if I have to track or pan, and hold it in front.  Since I don't have a press pass and was trying to move around without being conspicuous, a tripod or monopod was not an option.

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Well, it's a MOV file, which plays in Quicktime on my Mac.  Do PC's refuse to play that?  

Ah - I didn't know it was a MOV file. Quicktime is very specific to the Apple. Once I knew it was displayable on a Mac only, I had a look at the video on my Mac and it displays quite well.

[ramarren]

Ah - I didn't know it was a MOV file. Quicktime is very specific to the Apple. Once I knew it was displayable on a Mac only, I had a look at the video on my Mac and it displays quite well.

 

 

QuickTime for Windows was supported from 1997 or so until 2016. 

The .MOV format was accepted by the ISO as the basis for MPEG-4 in 1998, and continues to this day to be the underlying standard for .m4p and .m4v files. 

 

There are a large number of both codecs and converters that allow Windows and Windows apps to read .MOV files and transcode them to MPEG-4 and other video formats. You just don't have any of them installed on your Windows system..

[scott kirkpatrick]

Quicktime can be downloaded to the PC and run there, but it is not something that MS makes at all obvious or welcome...  I avoid shooting MP4 files because they do really strange things to me Mac, like wake up Windows in VMWare Fusion.  I've found several "free" MOV to MP4 converter apps, but they only convert a portion of a file before asking for money, so I haven't done it.

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QuickTime for Windows was supported from 1997 or so until 2016. 

The .MOV format was accepted by the ISO as the basis for MPEG-4 in 1998, and continues to this day to be the underlying standard for .m4p and .m4v files. 

 

There are a large number of both codecs and converters that allow Windows and Windows apps to read .MOV files and transcode them to MPEG-4 and other video formats. You just don't have any of them installed on your Windows system..

Not to speak of the Linux system, of course. It was not evident to me that this was a Quicktime movie, and therefore I didn't start hunting for the codec. 

[ramarren]

Quicktime can be downloaded to the PC and run there, but it is not something that MS makes at all obvious or welcome... I avoid shooting MP4 files because they do really strange things to me Mac, like wake up Windows in VMWare Fusion. I've found several "free" MOV to MP4 converter apps, but they only convert a portion of a file before asking for money, so I haven't done it.

Tell macOS what app you want to start when you open a .mp4 file and that won't happen.

Of course, I don't have any need for VMWare or Windows so it never happens on my system.

 

Similarly, I've never seen any particular point to running Linux on my home system so what happens there is of little concern.

Edited July 13, 2017 by ramarren

[rafael_macia]

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Now it shows up fine. You can stabilize the footage in post. Davinci Resolve does a great job removing camera shake.

 

Any stabilizing I have done in DaVinci Resolve results in borders which are shaky. To eliminate them, one would have to crop into the frame, I am thinking. I am shooting 4K UHD.

[Irakly Shanidze]

Any stabilizing I have done in DaVinci Resolve results in borders which are shaky. To eliminate them, one would have to crop into the frame, I am thinking. I am shooting 4K UHD.

 

yes, if you shoot 4K, the influence of cropping on image quality after stabilization  is negligible.

[scott kirkpatrick]

There have been questions about how do the TL lenses using only 10 M SL pixels in the APS-C center of the frame stack up against 24M pixels, either using the SL in full frame mode or by putting the new TL2 behind them.  It's hot outside, so I shot a wall of photo books with three different lenses that produce 28 mm-eff. focal lengths.  One is an Olympus E-M1 version 2 (20 MPx) at 14 mm, one is the TL 11-23 at 18 mm on my SL, and the third is from my M10 with a 28 Elmarit-asph (new version).  I won't label them, but you can click thru to Flickr or guess from the filenames which is which.

 

P7150877 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

S1000999 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

L8001796 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

straight from the camera, via COne defaults, auto WB.  Each was rendered at 100%.  My apologies for the colors.  This was shot in a mix of daylight and flourescent in a room with pale green walls.

 

Of course for my next billboard job, I could still go back to the Phase One back on a Hasselblad C500.  But really, resolution is not much of a problem these days.

 

scott 

Edited July 15, 2017 by scott kirkpatrick

[scott kirkpatrick]

I found a T yesterday at HuntsPhotoandVideo in Melrose MA.  (They have acquired most of the small but serious camera stores in college locations around the Boston area -- a good store with a lot of programs running.)  We upgraded it to firmware 1.61.  All three of the T zooms received firmware updates.  For an 18-55 unopened since the original models, which the SL could recognize but would not accept, this took about 3 minutes.  For the 11-23 and 55-135 with newer firmware, this required only about 5 sec each.  A T tells you when it is upgrading lens firmware.  All three now work on my SL.  I don't have enough prior experience to comment on changes in AF performance.

 

scott

[frame-it]

They [Leica] should incorporate T/TL/S lens upgrades into the SL firmware

[maqroll]

They [Leica] should incorporate T/TL/S lens upgrades into the SL firmware

+1

[rafael_macia]

They [Leica] should incorporate T/TL/S lens upgrades into the SL firmware

 

+1

[lx1713]

+1

 

I'm experiencing worse AF accuracy performance and a couple of freezes on my SL with the 55-135.

 

The 11-23 doesn't focus correctly with touch AF whereas before it was quite fast and accurate otherwise it's performing pretty fine. Thankfully, I've the 24-90.

Edited July 30, 2017 by lx1713

[scott kirkpatrick]

I have some time today to check out some of the details of my T zooms' performance on my SL.  The lenses are updated on a T to 1.61 and my SL is running 3.0.  I did have touch AF working with the 11-23 recently.  What is the T firmware level of your lenses?

 

scott

[scott kirkpatrick]

Here is some work with the Vario-Elmar APO SL 55-135.  Just 10 MPx, but lovely color rendition

 

R1000671 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

R1000689 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

and really sharp to boot.

 

R1000696 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

scott

 

and a short (very rough) sidewalk video clip with this lens:

 

https://flic.kr/p/XcGVwu

Edited July 30, 2017 by scott kirkpatrick

[scott kirkpatrick]

Now for the 18-56.  Here's a video clip.  The sound track is what you get when you combine a bar (20 local beers on tap), a bowling alley, and a pizzeria, all under one rather low roof:  https://flic.kr/p/XgvyvZ   I'm pretty sure that I shot at 18 mm.

 

Here's a little more of the setting:

 

R1000741 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

scott

Edited July 31, 2017 by scott kirkpatrick

[lx1713]

I have some time today to check out some of the details of my T zooms' performance on my SL.  The lenses are updated on a T to 1.61 and my SL is running 3.0.  I did have touch AF working with the 11-23 recently.  What is the T firmware level of your lenses?

 

scott

 

Hi Scott,

Thanks! I will check out the firmware. I had the T lenses updated in May, so I guess they might need updating to match the SL's 3.0. Fortunately, I can easily access Leica service here.

Alex

[lx1713]

 Just 10 MPx, but lovely color rendition

 

 

Yes. Actually I very happy with a 10 mpx output for 80-90% of my work. It's only the occasional shot that needs 24 mpx and even rarer still 36mpx. Nonetheless it's great to have easy access to 24mp. However, I've decided to shift to a 24 mp centric workflow to simplify things.

 

And I'm thoroughly pleased with every lens I have used on the SL so far 

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[tom0511]

Here is some work with the Vario-Elmar APO SL 55-135.  Just 10 MPx, but lovely color rendition

 

R1000671 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

R1000689 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

and really sharp to boot.

 

R1000696 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

scott

 

and a short (very rough) sidewalk video clip with this lens:

 

https://flic.kr/p/XcGVwu

 

right now I feel like the guy in the background, just with the difference that I sit in the office and need to hide how I feel