Gabrimaz Posted May 30, 2017 Share #1  Posted May 30, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear Leica Guys  I am again seeking your help in regards to a lens acquisition. This Summicron from 1988 seems to be in a perfect condition. The owner states that it has been used only a couple of times. IF you have a look on the below pics you even can see the internal ring of the bayonet being abraded just a little. ( even if I have a closer look now it looks like a little metal detachment???) The lens comes with its original leather pouch and original lens hood for 1000 euros. Please advise if its a good deal considering conditions year and etc. Please find below Photos Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/272991-summicron-50mm-f2-1988-nearly-new/?do=findComment&comment=3285892'>More sharing options...
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jdlaing Posted May 30, 2017 Share #2 Â Posted May 30, 2017 Are you buying as a collector or are you going to,use it? What camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUG66 Posted May 30, 2017 Share #3  Posted May 30, 2017 I have a similar lens but slightly older (330xxxx) than the one in your photos, and the range finder cam is ground in exactly the same place. I purchased it new with an M6. I am now using it on an M8 on which it back focused by 20 mm at 1M. I rectified it by fitting a larger shim collar, and set jt to be spot on at F 2.8. I would consider that the machining has been done by Leica. It may need adjustment for digital.  Doug66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 30, 2017 Share #4 Â Posted May 30, 2017 Make sure focusing is not stiff which can happen with lenses staying more or less unused for several years. If not, it is a good deal indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 30, 2017 Share #5 Â Posted May 30, 2017 [...] It may need adjustment for digital. Â +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrimaz Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share #6 Â Posted May 31, 2017 thank you very much guys for your reply . the lens is intended to be used with a M10Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 2, 2017 Share #7  Posted June 2, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Younger than my 3.022.644 (Canadian - almost like new - no hood no box no pouch), which I bought together with M240 for 900 Euros including CLA/calibration : so I'd say that price is in the right/good range. A sure bet for having an excellent 50. Probably,  for no much more money, you could find the last version with built in hood... a plus in practical use... but I'm not so sure that in efficiency is better than the std. 12585 or 12539... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 2, 2017 Share #8 Â Posted June 2, 2017 The machined down part of the focus activator strikes me as odd. First, it is clumsy as seen in the start and end of the arc. Second, why did they remove such a wide area when only a relatively small part presses against the rangefinder roller? Strange! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted June 3, 2017 Share #9 Â Posted June 3, 2017 The machined down part of the focus activator strikes me as odd. First, it is clumsy as seen in the start and end of the arc. Second, why did they remove such a wide area when only a relatively small part presses against the rangefinder roller? Strange! All my Leica lenses from the '60s have similar grinding on the cam profile. Back then I was told it was to match to the exact focal length of each optical head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 3, 2017 Share #10 Â Posted June 3, 2017 The machined down part of the focus activator strikes me as odd. First, it is clumsy as seen in the start and end of the arc. Second, why did they remove such a wide area when only a relatively small part presses against the rangefinder roller? Strange! It's indeed different from mine (3.022.644) which indeed has a "flat" cam surface : but the explanation in previous post is reasonable... the lens of the OP has the exact focal length indicator ("22"), while my one (Canadian) has not... differences in manufacturing methodologies from the two factories... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted June 4, 2017 Share #11 Â Posted June 4, 2017 It's indeed different from mine (3.022.644) which indeed has a "flat" cam surface : but the explanation in previous post is reasonable... the lens of the OP has the exact focal length indicator ("22"), while my one (Canadian) has not... differences in manufacturing methodologies from the two factories... Mine (3448...) is a 52.2mm and has no milled dip. Â s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted June 4, 2017 Share #12 Â Posted June 4, 2017 I see that your lens is not coded 6 bits. Consider this in evaluating the price. There are plenty of coded summicrons on the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 4, 2017 Share #13 Â Posted June 4, 2017 [...] There are plenty of coded summicrons on the market. Â Plenty of v5 (with built-in hood) are indeed coded but v4 (with focus tab) i did not know. Would you have any link? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 4, 2017 Share #14  Posted June 4, 2017 My V4 cannot be decently coded... it looks clearly that a screw of the flange is located along the 6 bit strip... dunno if all V4 are like this (my V2, on the contrary, could be coded... no screws on the flange) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 4, 2017 Share #15 Â Posted June 4, 2017 Last time i checked Leica did offer to code the Summicron 50/2 v4. A new coded flange with five screw holes must be used then i suspect but i have no experience with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted June 4, 2017 Share #16 Â Posted June 4, 2017 Indeed my V4 Summicron made in canada is coded and (thanks lct) has a 5 screw flange. It must have been coded later at leica. I bought it second hand at less than 1000 eur- maybe I was lucky. Check summilux.net (French site) which might have such deals. http://www.summilux.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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