jaapv Posted May 31, 2017 Share #461 Posted May 31, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Or it could be meant to flush out the remaining affected sensors, making the bean counters happy at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Hi jaapv, Take a look here Leica Ends Free Sensor Replacement for M9/Monochrom Bodies. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
IkarusJohn Posted May 31, 2017 Share #462 Posted May 31, 2017 Or it could be meant to flush out the remaining affected sensors, making the bean counters happy at the same time. No help to those who have cameras older than 5 years since new, with the original (not improved) sensor replacement ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 1, 2017 Share #463 Posted June 1, 2017 No help to those who have cameras older than 5 years since new, with the original (not improved) sensor replacement ... Same discourtesy as those with S lens AF failures, which is an even worse situation since it seems clear that a relatively recent S FW update speeded up AF and caused lenses that were fine to break. Bean counter mentality, with no loyal long term customer perspective. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 1, 2017 Share #464 Posted June 1, 2017 No help to those who have cameras older than 5 years since new, with the original (not improved) sensor replacement ...Exactly the cameras I have. One with the original sensor from 2012, the other replaced with a corrosion-prone sensor. Fingers crossed Leica finds corrosion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 1, 2017 Share #465 Posted June 1, 2017 "Fingers crossed ..." that, sadly, is an unfortunate way to deal with consumer rights. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronazle Posted June 1, 2017 Share #466 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) "Fingers crossed ..." that, sadly, is an unfortunate way to deal with consumer rights. Particularly so given the wonderful historic reputation and the somewhat stiff (especially for the problem ridden M8/M9s) prices for the product. It is sad. Regards, Ron Edited June 1, 2017 by Ronazle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 1, 2017 Share #467 Posted June 1, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) "Fingers crossed ..." that, sadly, is an unfortunate way to deal with consumer rights. True. But that is the way it is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 1, 2017 Share #468 Posted June 1, 2017 True. But that is the way it is... Well, I seem to recall that it was people here not accepting "that is the way it is" that forced Leicas to properly acknowledge the problem in the first place. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 3, 2017 Share #469 Posted June 3, 2017 (...) Nose despite face syndrome? Real situation - does your M9 have corrosion? If so, send it in now. If you don't know, have someone check it, now. Acting without knowledge is mostly disastrous. Get the facts, act accordingly. Selling all your gear conforms to my first statement. Only one loser, syndrome. Once fixed, the M9 is a fabulous camera, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Take pictures and rejoice in the great gear you have. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 3, 2017 Share #470 Posted June 3, 2017 Well, I seem to recall that it was people here not accepting "that is the way it is" that forced Leicas to properly acknowledge the problem in the first place. As I hear it the real threat of a class action in the USA was the deciding factor to rethink the position. The outcome of the one Nikon went through for a comparable problem is well known. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbhcody1 Posted June 3, 2017 Share #471 Posted June 3, 2017 I have new spots on my M9-P sensor ... ugg. Now ... looking for advice. Repair and keep my M9-P or trade it in for a Monochrom? I don't want a 240. I would trade it in for a M10. I could trade it in for a Monochrom ($4,000) off ... not a bad deal ... (would it be ethical to sell the Monochrom on Ebay and use the money for a 10) ... I will leave color behind for a bit but ... my first world problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 3, 2017 Share #472 Posted June 3, 2017 I haven't heard of any issues with the new sensor. Why don't you just get it fixed? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 3, 2017 Share #473 Posted June 3, 2017 I have new spots on my M9-P sensor ... ugg. Now ... looking for advice. Repair and keep my M9-P or trade it in for a Monochrom? I don't want a 240. I would trade it in for a M10. I could trade it in for a Monochrom ($4,000) off ... not a bad deal ... (would it be ethical to sell the Monochrom on Ebay and use the money for a 10) ... I will leave color behind for a bit but ... my first world problem. Hello Rkbh, Welcome to the Forum. It is perfectly ethical IF you explain the situation accurately & then "plug" the potential buyer into a place like this Thread in this Forum where they can get an understanding of what is involved. Otherwise: No. Ethical is NOT simply a First World problem. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 3, 2017 Share #474 Posted June 3, 2017 Nose despite face syndrome? I hope you realize that the saying is to cut off nose TO SPITE face... I only mention this because I had a friend who used to say '6 and a half dozen of the other', not realizing the logic of the saying '6 of one; half dozen of the other'. I loved her reaction once explained, since she had been saying it incorrectly her whole life, not understanding the words. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 4, 2017 Share #475 Posted June 4, 2017 Six of one half dozen of the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 4, 2017 Share #476 Posted June 4, 2017 Six of one half dozen of the other. A programmer's wife sent him to the grocery store saying, "Get a loaf of bread, and if they have eggs, get a half dozen." You know it: he returned with a half dozen loaves of bread because they did have eggs. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus Posted June 4, 2017 Share #477 Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) Back to the topic....personally I don't have a problem, I realise everyone here is just indulging in a little venting, and that's fine, but really isn't Leica behaving quite reputably? Would it really be reasonable to expect the replacement offer to be open ended? I have been aware for years that both my M9 and MM very likely have "the problem", so this deadline has forced me to bite the bullet and finally send them away for treatment. And (again just from a personal perspective) I wouldn't consider taking legal action over perceived wrongs regarding this business, it would be entirely too costly and life is too short. Edited June 4, 2017 by platypus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 4, 2017 Share #478 Posted June 4, 2017 I agree with platypus that Leica is likely acting reasonably. I also go on record that I will not send my two M9s for replacements simply because I don't think I will care enough when their sensors outcomes become unacceptable, should I live so long. Peace 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 4, 2017 Share #479 Posted June 4, 2017 I hope you realize that the saying is to cut off nose TO SPITE face... I only mention this because I had a friend who used to say '6 and a half dozen of the other', not realizing the logic of the saying '6 of one; half dozen of the other'. I loved her reaction once explained, since she had been saying it incorrectly her whole life, not understanding the words. Jeff Yes, thanks Jeff. I am fully aware of the proper saying. I was just trying to a us e a bit of verbal shorthand to allude to the situation. The correct saying: "To cut of one's nose despite one's face". Meaning: To take some action despite the fact that you will suffer more as a consequence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 4, 2017 Share #480 Posted June 4, 2017 The correct saying: "To cut of one's nose despite one's face". . The saying is to cut off one's nose to spite one's face. But I get your interpretation. Sorry for the OT. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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