roverover Posted July 3, 2018 Share #41 Posted July 3, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I tried it the other day and today and have the same question. The website still doesn’t work. The Match Technical site is still down. It seems rather ominous. There is no message or information, and you can't get to the homepage at all, I doubt this is a temporary situation. I like Tim's products and hope he is doing ok. If it's just a technical glitch, perhaps all is fine. Maybe there is a retailer on the forum that might know something about that business? I'd hate to see them disappear as I very much like the products. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Hi roverover, Take a look here Leica vs. Thumbs Up grip for M10. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
hteasley Posted July 3, 2018 Share #42 Posted July 3, 2018 I find the angling of the MT Thumbs Up much more comfortable than the less contoured Leica one. Plus, I like the ability to lock it in with the screw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Badger Posted March 7, 2019 Share #43 Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) The Leica Store in Mayfair, London, is asking £210 for for the Leica product. That’s about $275! It is sheer greed on the part of Leica. If Thumbs Up were doing an alternative for £209.99 I’d buy that on principle. Thankfully they don’t, theirs are far cheaper and equally good. M series cameras are possibly the best in the world so I accept that may be worth paying for, but when a plastic Leica lens cap can cost £40 when it costs a couple of pennies to stamp out then it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. The same with those electronic view finders, identical but for the name, but a couple of hundred pounds difference. Having learned from costly experience I put all my original lens and body caps in a box and that is where they stay. I use the generic alternatives and save myself a lot of money when it comes to selling for an upgrade. My Nikkon F5 had a choice of six or eight different optical settings for its viewfinder and they were built in. A single lens from Leica costs over £100. I could go on . . . If Leica truly respected rather than merely valued their faithful, who have put up with this for decades, why is the thumb grip not part of the design? It smacks to me of money grubbing which reflects badly on the greatest name in photography. Edited March 7, 2019 by Stripey Badger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted March 7, 2019 Share #44 Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Stripey Badger said: The Leica Store in Mayfair, London, is asking £210 for for the Leica product. That’s about $275! It is sheer greed on the part of Leica. If Thumbs Up were doing an alternative for £209.99 I’d buy that on principle. Thankfully they don’t, theirs are far cheaper and equally good. Have you handled the Leica item? It has small rubber protection pads for the camera in strategic places that make it the option for me. That said, I don't have one and do not see need, although my wife with smaller hands (thankfully) appreciates one on her M. However I do hope next M has faux film wind thumb support. Edited March 7, 2019 by pedaes 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Badger Posted March 7, 2019 Share #45 Posted March 7, 2019 No. Only the Thumbs Up for both my M9 and M240. They work perfectly and match the silver of the bodies and when the M11 arrives I’ll save £100 (which by then will be sorely needed). I forget now what I paid for them but it was around 100 - £110. I suppose I could trek all the way over to Mayfair to try one, but frankly I can’t be bothered. One thing about your comment disturbs me deeply. You allow your wife to own a Leica? What do you do if she produces better pictures than you? My wife divorced me when I told her women were not up to the Leica M series and I bought her a Sony for Christmas. Fortunately the judge agreed with me and awarded me custody of my bodies and lenses. She can keep the kids and the house. I have priorities. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrostl Posted March 9, 2019 Share #46 Posted March 9, 2019 Another Thumbie fan here, to accommodate a 21mm OVF. I switched from a Thumbs Up, which I slightly prefer on feel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiebrou Posted March 10, 2019 Share #47 Posted March 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 3/24/2017 at 10:49 PM, BerndReini said: It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth that Leica knocked off the Thumbs Up. I would try to support the original manufacturer. Do we know that MT doesn’t OEM them for Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linford Posted March 13, 2019 Share #48 Posted March 13, 2019 In November I made a trip through Hong Kong, Tokyo and Kyoto. No less than 6-times (before I finally took it off all together) the Leica Thumb Support fell while I was walking the streets. Fortunately I heard it bouncing on the pavement and retrieved it--a task on the crowded streets.. Upon returning from that trip I traded the M10 for the M10-D. I am very happy with that decision. Also, I should say that I have used the Thumbs-Up on three prior models: M9, M240, M246. I never experienced what I experienced with the Leica Thumb Support. Cheers--lt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjun Posted March 18, 2019 Share #49 Posted March 18, 2019 I'm curious to know how secure the M10-D feels with its built-in thumb support compared with the M10 plus add-on support. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a5m Posted March 31, 2019 Share #50 Posted March 31, 2019 This is off topic, but it'd be awesome if Leica offered an upgrade service for adding the M10-D faux film advance/thumb support to older bodies. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturk Posted April 1, 2019 Share #51 Posted April 1, 2019 Somewhat off topic... As an experiment, I tried putting some pieces of gaffer tape where I grip my M10-P to make it a bit less slippery. One small piece goes on the slope of the thumbwheel and another on the front of the top plate, just to the right of the small rangefinder window. It doesn't make a huge difference, but it is noticeable. Since my camera is black, the modification isn't visible (and doesn't block the flash shoe either). Maybe I'll put another piece of tape over the slotted screw to make afficionados think there's a red Leica logo underneath.😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PasMichiel Posted April 3, 2019 Share #52 Posted April 3, 2019 Is there a Thumbs-up with extra shoe for the m10? I always used a spirit level to make pictures without looking and not have to correct it later... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270632-leica-vs-thumbs-up-grip-for-m10/?do=findComment&comment=3714749'>More sharing options...
PasMichiel Posted April 3, 2019 Share #53 Posted April 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, PasMichiel said: Is there a Thumbs-up with extra shoe for the m10? I always used a spirit level to make pictures without looking and not have to correct it later... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I don't know this TU-CSEP-1 (of the M8-M9) will fit. Also I am sure the TU-CSEP-1s won't because it has a flat spot near the wheel. Or does the TU-CSEP-2 (fot X) fit better because the LCD is bigger and there is not enough room between hot shoe and LCD of M10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PasMichiel Posted April 3, 2019 Share #54 Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, PasMichiel said: I don't know this TU-CSEP-1 (of the M8-M9) will fit. Also I am sure the TU-CSEP-1s won't because it has a flat spot near the wheel. Or does the TU-CSEP-2 (fot X) fit better because the LCD is bigger and there is not enough room between hot shoe and LCD of M10. Does someone know if there will be a Thumbs UP CSEP-MX (the EP-MX is for M10) or does the CSEP-10s(s or b) for 240/262 also fit the M10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Milner Posted April 5, 2019 Share #55 Posted April 5, 2019 My "pre-loved" M10 came with a Thumbie fitted and I really like it. It doesn't tie up/stress the hot shoe, it feels solid and it's attractively brassed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malabito Posted May 14, 2019 Share #56 Posted May 14, 2019 Hi! how is the Thumbie holding on? Mine was great, until i started to use it on humid and hot places. it hasnt fallen down, but it does move around. So i been thinking of going back to the thumbs up, or re glue it again. It hasn't fallen, but it doesn't bring me confidence now. During winter it worked perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelatino Posted May 15, 2019 Share #57 Posted May 15, 2019 Mostly important is carefully clean the body and the Thumbie prior setting the stiky tape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcelography Posted December 29, 2022 Share #58 Posted December 29, 2022 On 5/14/2019 at 8:07 AM, Malabito said: Hi! how is the Thumbie holding on? Mine was great, until i started to use it on humid and hot places. it hasnt fallen down, but it does move around. So i been thinking of going back to the thumbs up, or re glue it again. It hasn't fallen, but it doesn't bring me confidence now. During winter it worked perfect. From my experience with hot places any tape, even gaffer, can kinda melt and become slippery and make a mess. I imagine with the Thumbie it should fall into the same issue, although I absolutely love the concept. It's pretty annoying indeed to have to remove the grip to use the EVF, for OVFs I used to adapt a cold shoe to the top plate using gaffers tape, aligned to the camera viewfinder, particularly awesome for nailing focus on a fast ultrawide. Parallax is pretty much negligible really, a if you do need exact framing, live view is a button click away. But I've ended up removing all tapes from my M10 as although it is removable, some gaffers tape leave a residue that solidifies over time, so decided to just not use anymore on the camera. Will test this again with microsuction tapes to the same spot and if it doesn't work, maybe just use sugru to permanently add a cold shoe to my match technical grip's top part. Not my fav route but might be the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malabito Posted December 29, 2022 Share #59 Posted December 29, 2022 2 hours ago, marcelography said: From my experience with hot places any tape, even gaffer, can kinda melt and become slippery and make a mess. I imagine with the Thumbie it should fall into the same issue, although I absolutely love the concept. It's pretty annoying indeed to have to remove the grip to use the EVF, for OVFs I used to adapt a cold shoe to the top plate using gaffers tape, aligned to the camera viewfinder, particularly awesome for nailing focus on a fast ultrawide. Parallax is pretty much negligible really, a if you do need exact framing, live view is a button click away. But I've ended up removing all tapes from my M10 as although it is removable, some gaffers tape leave a residue that solidifies over time, so decided to just not use anymore on the camera. Will test this again with microsuction tapes to the same spot and if it doesn't work, maybe just use sugru to permanently add a cold shoe to my match technical grip's top part. Not my fav route but might be the way. I ended taking mine out and going with the leica original. It left a horrible residue, that i managed to finally clean, but after that i wont be using it again. Better go with the leica one which works perfectly or the match technical. The leica is priced crazy, but if you are lucky, you can find used for a relatively good price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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