usee Posted March 16, 2017 Share #1 Posted March 16, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does anyone know why Lightroom does not show aperture data as Metadata? Any solutions to that known? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stef63 Posted March 16, 2017 Share #2 Posted March 16, 2017 #2 in this post : http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268421-the-little-things-we-lose-with-the-m10/?p=3190835 Leica decided to remove the "guessed" f-stop from the exif. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 16, 2017 Share #3 Posted March 16, 2017 Does anyone know why Lightroom does not show aperture data as Metadata? Any solutions to that known? Solution: notebook and pencil... Seriously: I cannot remember when I looked at the aperture in EXIF. If I cannot tell from the image it is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 16, 2017 Share #4 Posted March 16, 2017 Solution: notebook and pencil... Seriously: I cannot remember when I looked at the aperture in EXIF. If I cannot tell from the image it is irrelevant. Same here. Is such memory a genetic thing? Are people born after the digital revolution impaired? Are photographers unaware of their fundamental settings? Have we become a shoot-n-spray-and-pray culture who tries to recapitulate their behavior through metadata? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted March 16, 2017 Share #5 Posted March 16, 2017 Same here. Is such memory a genetic thing? Are people born after the digital revolution impaired? Are photographers unaware of their fundamental settings? Have we become a shoot-n-spray-and-pray culture who tries to recapitulate their behavior through metadata? So true. Reminds me a quote of Dimitri Medvedev "Photography is all about capturing that special sadness about a moment already gone and never to be returned" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted March 16, 2017 Share #6 Posted March 16, 2017 Does anyone know why Lightroom does not show aperture data as Metadata? Any solutions to that known? Welcome to the Forum...ignore all the comments. The old folks home went on a field trip today and they all came to the Leica Forum to piss off a newbie Always check the FAQ first: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/269389-my-images-do-not-display-the-f-stop-data-is-there-a-problem-with-my-m10/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted March 16, 2017 Share #7 Posted March 16, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) So true. Reminds me a quote of Dimitri Medvedev "Photography is all about capturing that special sadness about a moment already gone and never to be returned" Well, thats cheerful... And yes... ignore the comments. Perfectly reasonable question, thankfully answered in the previous post via a link. You would think someone would have done that earlier wouldn't you? And welcome... we are not all old and grouchy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Black Posted March 16, 2017 Share #8 Posted March 16, 2017 For Mac users - Exif Editor is available on the Apple App store. It's pretty good. It doesn't have all the fields ExifChanger does (another Mac app), but ExifChanger has not been updated in ~2 years and it's unstable on my 2010 12-core Mac Pro, and horrible on my 2013 MBP. I've emailed the software author several times and haven't received a response. And with no update in ~2 years, I think I got my response. So moved onto Exif Editor - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/exif-editor/id477514607?mt=12 I like this app better because I can edit all the files, go back and forth, make changes, etc., then save all them at one button press when done. Whereas ExifChanger wants you to save file by file after any edit. That gets really tedious if editing 30-40-50+ raws. And FWIW - I had some bugs with Exif Editor, so emailed the author, and he replied, had me beta test some of his changes, etc. So he earns a thumbs-up for providing support. I don't enter EXIF for all my shots, just the keepers. That cuts down on some of the back office work load. Presets can be created in Exif Editor, so I used that to pre-fill in a bunch of the IPTC data, owner info, lens name, max aperture, etc. Then all I have to enter is the aperture and any unique keywords I'd like to add to the raw. You can add text like descriptions, etc. (all the usual meta data we can edit via raw editors or Photoshop). All in all, it's really pretty quick once you get used to the app (which is pretty simple) and have all your presets set-up (also simple to do). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted March 16, 2017 Share #9 Posted March 16, 2017 I think that it is somehow frustration not to see the aperture in LR. If I understand well from the Link then we should not expect this data through a firmware update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 17, 2017 Share #10 Posted March 17, 2017 That is correct. Leica decided to omit the aperture value because the camera can only guess. There is no connection between the lens and the camera that can transmit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 17, 2017 Share #11 Posted March 17, 2017 For Mac users - Exif Editor is available on the Apple App store. Yah, but we are talking about people who cannot remember the setting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 17, 2017 Share #12 Posted March 17, 2017 Or deduce it from the image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygraphy Posted March 17, 2017 Share #13 Posted March 17, 2017 Another related question then... What's the point in having that little circle sensor at the top then? I thought its main function was to provide a means to guesstimate the aperture value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted March 17, 2017 Share #14 Posted March 17, 2017 Does anyone know why Lightroom does not show aperture data as Metadata? Any solutions to that known? Yes: because the M10 does not write the aperture setting into the EXIF data. Solution: write down the aperture you use as you shoot if you can't remember it, and then use EXIFtool to embed it into the image files. Another related question then... What's the point in having that little circle sensor at the top then? I thought its main function was to provide a means to guesstimate the aperture value. At least one purpose for the ambient light sensor is to control how bright the in-viewfinder frame line illumination is. It helps the camera calculate exposure in the absence of information about maximum aperture of a lens. It also allows the camera to estimate the aperture value in use in the viewfinder. Leica simply doesn't inject that estimated value into the EXIF data with the M10. This may be a bug, or it may be intentional; only Leica knows for sure at this time. Based on its accuracy in the M8, M9, M-E, and typ 240/246/262 Ms, and the SL when using adapted lenses, it's not particularly precise or useful. If Leica chooses to re-instate it in a future firmware update, well, that's up to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted March 17, 2017 Share #15 Posted March 17, 2017 Another related question then... What's the point in having that little circle sensor at the top then? I thought its main function was to provide a means to guesstimate the aperture value. It also is used to adjust the brightness of the LCD screen when set to auto brightness. And Leica uses the information for lens corrections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrift- Posted March 17, 2017 Share #16 Posted March 17, 2017 That is correct. Leica decided to omit the aperture value because the camera can only guess. There is no connection between the lens and the camera that can transmit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 17, 2017 Share #17 Posted March 17, 2017 It also is used to adjust the brightness of the LCD screen when set to auto brightness. And Leica uses the information for lens corrections. And it is used to set the pre-flash intensity in the M-TTL flash system. (And gets it wrong on occasion - the camera will emit a second pre-flsh in that case) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2017 Share #18 Posted March 17, 2017 Occasionally Lightroom does not receive the full infomation about my lens on the M10 recorded files. All my lenses are M (28/50/90 and 135) but today 1 in 10 all taken with the 50mm does not have lens information and I could not add it manually because Leica is not an option!! This can clearly be seen in the two attached files. In the 'lightroom.png' file I have selected to enable the profile. In the other shots I took this clearly shows correctly the Leica and the Summilux 50mm. The second file shows the options of manufacturers except the one I want Leica! "Unable to locate a matching rofile automatically", and does not list Leica......... I am using Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC V2015.9 release and camera Raw 9.9 Is this fixable without resorting to using Exif Editor for example? Could it happen that I took that picture and then switched the camera off too quickly, would that create this issue. It was actually the last photo I took and I did switch the camera off. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270443-missing-aperture-data-m10-in-lightroom-cc-20159-camera-raw-99/?do=findComment&comment=3235446'>More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted March 17, 2017 Share #19 Posted March 17, 2017 Is it possible that picture is jpg and not dng? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted March 17, 2017 Share #20 Posted March 17, 2017 Occasionally Lightroom does not receive the full infomation about my lens on the M10 recorded files. All my lenses are M (28/50/90 and 135) but today 1 in 10 all taken with the 50mm does not have lens information and I could not add it manually because Leica is not an option!! This can clearly be seen in the two attached files. In the 'lightroom.png' file I have selected to enable the profile. In the other shots I took this clearly shows correctly the Leica and the Summilux 50mm. The second file shows the options of manufacturers except the one I want Leica! "Unable to locate a matching rofile automatically", and does not list Leica......... I am using Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC V2015.9 release and camera Raw 9.9 Is this fixable without resorting to using Exif Editor for example? Could it happen that I took that picture and then switched the camera off too quickly, would that create this issue. It was actually the last photo I took and I did switch the camera off. "Lightroom.png" file? Huh? I guess that's the screen capture you made of the LR lens corrections panel... ? Lightroom has no lens profiles for Leica JPEG files; it has lens profiles for JPEG files from a bunch of other cameras (mostly smartphone cameras if you look at the list). Lightroom has M, R, and S lens profiles for Leica SL DNG files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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