rsmphoto Posted March 14, 2017 Share #1 Â Posted March 14, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maybe I'm just old school, but I would greatly appreciate it if Leica, in their next iteration of firmware, would allow me the option to simply LOCK a single focus point in the center of the frame. For what I do and the way I shoot (MF using the joystick for auto focus) this would be most welcome. Anyone else? Â Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JASP Posted March 14, 2017 Share #2 Â Posted March 14, 2017 Agree! Â Very old school... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeadair Posted March 20, 2017 Share #3 Â Posted March 20, 2017 Yes, another (perhaps meaningless) vote here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiraCrowell Posted March 20, 2017 Share #4 Â Posted March 20, 2017 Totally agree. This is one of my biggest peeves with the SL. Â I would rather focus & recompose than play with a fiddly joystick. Â Making a photograph is not a video game. Actually, I miss the split-prism focus on the original Leicaflex SL. Â How's that for old-school? Â Would also love to see markings on the dials and lenses too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted March 22, 2017 Share #5 Â Posted March 22, 2017 I'd like to be able to lock my focus point(s), period. Â It's easy to unintentionally nudge the thumbstick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richherzog Posted March 22, 2017 Share #6 Â Posted March 22, 2017 I totally agree. Â I only use manual focus lenses and locking the focus point for manual focus lenses would be a welcome and greatly needed feature. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted March 22, 2017 Share #7 Â Posted March 22, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I also use MF with the joystick for AF. Â That said I don't see the point of locking dead center, or how accidentally nudging the joystick makes any difference given it doesn't change the actual point of focus until you activate AF. Â If you focus and recompose and then inadvertently move the AF point, you're still in focus until you reactivare AF. If you are okay with focus and recompose then just do it again with the off center AF point. Â Markings on the dials of the SL and the native lenses makes no sense given the dials serve multiple purposes on the camera dependent on the mode you're in and the lenses are focus by wire. The top screen does what markings on the lenses and dials do for you, except also requiring power be on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted March 22, 2017 Share #8 Â Posted March 22, 2017 Except it's too easy to inadvertently move the focus point and on the next shot you end up mis focussing because the point moved to the far side. This applies to AF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted March 22, 2017 Share #9 Â Posted March 22, 2017 I have never had that issue with any camera I've owned, with or without joystick. Â I would however like a quick way to re-center (double tap joystick perhaps). My Nikons had this feature with a separate AF-On button and the joystick press re-centering the AF point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiraCrowell Posted March 23, 2017 Share #10  Posted March 23, 2017 "The top screen does what markings on the lenses and dials do for you, except also requiring power be on."  -LD_50 Exactly why the SL is slower to prefocus - you have to wait to turn the camera on to check settings.  Incidentally, I only shoot Manual Mode and would like to be able to lock modes also.  M System settings can be changed instantly by feel which is much faster and stealthier than waiting for the SL OLED to fully register.  Also, anyone tried night/star photography without markings?  The SL lenses are a nightmare to focus by wire at night with no markings.  The OLED does not show focal length or distance so there is no way to double-check or prefocus by actually looking at the exterior of the camera, which is obvious with any marked lens.  Focus peaking is not reliably sensitive enough for distant stars/dark night.  Love Leica but in the case of no lens markings, design negates function.   Thanks  Quote MultiQuote  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted March 24, 2017 Share #11 Â Posted March 24, 2017 <p><p> Â "The top screen does what markings on the lenses and dials do for you, except also requiring power be on." -LD_50 Exactly why the SL is slower to prefocus - you have to wait to turn the camera on to check settings. Incidentally, I only shoot Manual Mode and would like to be able to lock modes also. M System settings can be changed instantly by feel which is much faster and stealthier than waiting for the SL OLED to fully register. Also, anyone tried night/star photography without markings? The SL lenses are a nightmare to focus by wire at night with no markings. The OLED does not show focal length or distance so there is no way to double-check or prefocus by actually looking at the exterior of the camera, which is obvious with any marked lens. Focus peaking is not reliably sensitive enough for distant stars/dark night. Love Leica but in the case of no lens markings, design negates function. Thanks Quote MultiQuote The design is modal, which many (including myself) prefer for this type of camera. Â The focal length is marked on the lenses and OLED does show distance. Â You hold the shutter half pressed and turn the focus ring and the OLED shows you the focus distance and depth of field. Â It's incredibly useful at night, though I wish the back screen would show the same in case the camera is mounted high on a tripod. In that use case a marked lens has the same limitation. You have to set it before placing on the tripod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiraCrowell Posted March 27, 2017 Share #12 Â Posted March 27, 2017 Thanks LD_50, great to know about half-press+turning ring to see distance/dof in OLED (agree about back screen info too). Â But still... I focus R & M lenses by touch or have a lens taab mounted so almost never need to look at the lines, wish SL lenses had tactile response as well as visual markings (not just OLED). Â Focusing by feel is faster than the time it takes to turn the camera on. Â Nevertheless, isn't the SL grand for MF and AF types alike? Â ;D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted March 27, 2017 Share #13 Â Posted March 27, 2017 I dont feel the need for locking, indeed I find it a great advantage to be able to move the point where I need it. However a locking option wouldnt hurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted March 27, 2017 Share #14 Â Posted March 27, 2017 Maybe I'm just old school, but I would greatly appreciate it if Leica, in their next iteration of firmware, would allow me the option to simply LOCK a single focus point in the center of the frame. For what I do and the way I shoot (MF using the joystick for auto focus) this would be most welcome. Anyone else? Â Richard It is already possible to lock a single focus point in the center of the frame: - AF Field Size : Field (it does not work with Point) - AF Setup -> Number of Steps -> 1 Â I have also inadvertently moved the focus point. I like the Nikon way: half-press shutter to 'unlock' the focus point movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintola Posted March 27, 2017 Share #15  Posted March 27, 2017 It is already possible to lock a single focus point in the center of the frame: - AF Field Size : Field (it does not work with Point) - AF Setup -> Number of Steps -> 1  I have also inadvertently moved the focus point. I like the Nikon way: half-press shutter to 'unlock' the focus point movement.  Thank You very much SrMi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmphoto Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share #16 Â Posted March 27, 2017 It is already possible to lock a single focus point in the center of the frame: - AF Field Size : Field (it does not work with Point) - AF Setup -> Number of Steps -> 1 Â I have also inadvertently moved the focus point. I like the Nikon way: half-press shutter to 'unlock' the focus point movement. Â Â Sorry, for me at least, the settings you suggest still allow the cursor to move when the toggle is touched. Â What I want is to disable the toggle (with the crosshairs centered) when using MF setting with toggle actuated for auto-focus, so I don't inadvertently move the cursor when using the toggle to focus. Â SA pretty simple a concept for those of us who want to use auto-focus without touching the shutter release. Firmware could allow this I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted March 27, 2017 Share #17  Posted March 27, 2017 Sorry, for me at least, the settings you suggest still allow the cursor to move when the toggle is touched.  What I want is to disable the toggle (with the crosshairs centered) when using MF setting with toggle actuated for auto-focus, so I don't inadvertently move the cursor when using the toggle to focus.  SA pretty simple a concept for those of us who want to use auto-focus without touching the shutter release. Firmware could allow this I suspect. Strange, for me it does not allow any movement of the focus point at all (joystick cannot move focus point). This is  in MF mode with auto-focus triggered by pressing the joystick. Do you have the latest firmware? Have you set AF Field size to Field and not to Point? Here is mentioned that Firmware 2.0 introduced locked focus point: http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2016/04/leica-sl-typ-601-firmware-version-2-0-released-a-look-at-whats-changed/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted March 28, 2017 Share #18  Posted March 28, 2017 Strange, for me it does not allow any movement of the focus point at all (joystick cannot move focus point). This is  in MF mode with auto-focus triggered by pressing the joystick. Do you have the latest firmware? Have you set AF Field size to Field and not to Point? Here is mentioned that Firmware 2.0 introduced locked focus point: http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2016/04/leica-sl-typ-601-firmware-version-2-0-released-a-look-at-whats-changed/  Works like a charm for me as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmphoto Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share #19  Posted March 28, 2017 Strange, for me it does not allow any movement of the focus point at all (joystick cannot move focus point). This is  in MF mode with auto-focus triggered by pressing the joystick. Do you have the latest firmware? Have you set AF Field size to Field and not to Point? Here is mentioned that Firmware 2.0 introduced locked focus point: http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2016/04/leica-sl-typ-601-firmware-version-2-0-released-a-look-at-whats-changed/ Got it. Firmware 2.0 made the difference. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmith Posted March 28, 2017 Share #20 Â Posted March 28, 2017 But why can't it just lock on single point?. Much more useful !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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