erlingmm Posted February 14, 2017 Share #21 Posted February 14, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) This L-plate for the Leica S from RRS is very helpful, if you can get it: http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/BS2-L-L-Plate-for-S2-2010-S-2013 The RRS tripods and ball heads are also excellent, but neither light nor cheap... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Agent M10 Posted February 14, 2017 Share #22 Posted February 14, 2017 Don't take it out in the rain, even light rain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted February 14, 2017 Share #23 Posted February 14, 2017 Don't take it out in the rain, even light rain. So the notorious "JustAlexander" from from GetDPI Forum is trying to continue his vendetta agains Leica in this thread, too. He has had a bad experience with an S camera in rainy weather, and a dispute with Leica about this. He also started a thread on the same topic here. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/269026-bye-leica-it-was-fun/ It is impossible to know what really has happened in this dispute. I can only say that I have used the S007 in rain, slush and snow, it has been completely wet (but not under water). Many people have had the same experience, without any problems. I have used it in wintery Norway in snow, slush and rain, in dusty safari in Africa, humid Shanghai etc. etc. without any problems. In my opinion the Leica S is as just as weatherproof as advertised, don't be afraid to use it in rough environments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenzoLandini Posted February 14, 2017 Share #24 Posted February 14, 2017 I second Vieri's comments. I meant "shortcomings" for someone coming from 35mm, but yes there are not shortcomings in absolute terms, rather different features. I personally don't see them as shortcomings because I am fine with the features of the S system and I knew what to expect when I bought it. I use often a tripod, I don't need high ISO, 5+ frames for second or fast lenses, etc. and coming from a 4x5 the S seems almost feather light... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 14, 2017 Share #25 Posted February 14, 2017 I am aware that a new S might be released sometime soon, but for now I think 37.5MP is more than enough for my purposes. th Could somebody please recommend me a tripod and ball head that would be tall enough for someone who is six feet tall? I'd be great if the tripod could collapse to be small enough to fit into a backpack or carry-on bag efor flights and easy transport. I won't buy the new one either, but its release could help drive down 007 prices. When the 007 arrived, Leica tried to clear out 006 inventory by briefly selling 006 models, with full protection plan, for $6500, as I recall. This is the tripod I use for bigger systems....and it worked perfectly when I tested the 006.... http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/TVC-24L-Versa-series-2-4-sections-leg-long. It extends high without a center column, and retracts small. Pairs wonderfully with the BH-55 head ... http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/BH-55-Ballhead (I also have the TA-2-LB leveling platform, which can be taken off for travel... http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/TA-2-LB-Series-2-Leveling-Base-with-Platform ). The BH-40 head is smaller and lighter, and would probably work fine, but I like the bigger, more robust head. My favorite tripod for travel and/or lighter gear is this one.... http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/TQC-14-Quick-column-series-1-tripod Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted February 14, 2017 Share #26 Posted February 14, 2017 Don't take it out in the rain, even light rain. Too late! An hour or so out in a snowstorm. Not the first time. No problems at all. --Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted February 14, 2017 Share #27 Posted February 14, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wouldn't be overly concerned about shutter speed usability and hence the need for tripod use, assuming your focus is the S007. The cmos sensor gives a wide ISO range, and hence decent hand-holdability. I couldn't say the same about the S006 or S2 with their CCD sensor, which arguably requires a lot more tripod use.The images I've taken with an S007 are far far superior for large prints compared to anything I've taken with my M240 (and recently tried M10) and 50mm APO. Really not even worth comparing due to such a difference in my view. re: tripod heads, the Arca P0 ball (in conjunction with an RRS plate for the Leica) is also a nice combo. I have the P0 and it's very nicely engineered. I've had a several RRS camera plates too, and the machining and fit have been superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share #28 Posted February 14, 2017 E I wouldn't be overly concerned about shutter speed usability and hence the need for tripod use, assuming your focus is the S007. The cmos sensor gives a wide ISO range, and hence decent hand-holdability. I couldn't say the same about the S006 or S2 with their CCD sensor, which arguably requires a lot more tripod use.The images I've taken with an S007 are far far superior for large prints compared to anything I've taken with my M240 (and recently tried M10) and 50mm APO. Really not even worth comparing due to such a difference in fact. Exactly, this is why I'm upgrading. I'm young and figure I can carry around the extra weight. The 50 APO really did wonders for the colors and sharpness of the M240 but it wasn't enough for me. The colors I've seen from files straight out of the S are truly remarkable, and of course they are much sharper! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted February 14, 2017 Share #29 Posted February 14, 2017 No bad lenses. I have had the 30, 45, 70, 100, 120, 180. My favorite walkaround kit now is the 35+70 combo for versatility and relative portability (those two are the smallest and lightest, and also the least expensive). But my favorite one lens is the 45 because it's the most natural perspective for me. It has the distinction of having the least (really almost zero) geometric distortion of all then lenses up to and including the 70. At 2.8 it seems a tiny bit sharper in the center than the Summarits at 2.5, but there's no much to it. The only thing I'll say about the 45 is its imposing size and bulk make it very different in use than a 35mm lens on a 35mm frame. Normal people tend to see it as a big zoom or invasive telephoto. It's long and front heavy. More work and less immersive and spontaneous. I've actually recently taken to carrying two lenses (usually 35 and 70) on two bodies (bought a used S2 for close to nothing!), one set in a bag and another slung around my shoulder. If I were to buy an S again now I might go for the S2 or 006 instead of an 007, and end up for money for a lens or two--or another body. Or else wait until the S007 prices fall further after the new Fuji and Hasselblad bodies come out, although as a 007 owner (mine being at Leica for repair since early November, to my increasing frustration) I secretly hope that doesn't happen. The 007 is much more responsive and faster and and better in low light and has greater DR. I also don't find the CMOS chip (with Lightroom processing) significant less appealing as some other users insist. But using the S2 and 007 side by side I actually don't find the former to be a major handicap--especially now that days are getting longer again in the northern hemisphere. In some ways its slowness (in all senses) fosters deliberateness and discipline in a way that's strangely comforting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share #30 Posted February 14, 2017 I'm very tempted to get the 45mm and the 100mm (and maybe one day add a 180mm or something even longer if Leica develops it). It's the added bulk of the 45mm compared to the 70mm that's making me think twice. I suppose the 30mm would be best for hand held shooting but I really don't think I could live with a lens that wide. When I used to shoot with my M and a 50mm lens I often found myself wishing the lens were slightly wider for landscapes. I also often found myself wishing I had a bit more focal length when trying to take photos of people inconspicuously. This makes a strong case for getting the 45mm and 100mm... that and I imagine the bokeh of the 100mm is stunning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted February 15, 2017 Share #31 Posted February 15, 2017 I believe RobertGeorge was posting many street portraits done with the S100 in the S image thread. They may be good references for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted February 15, 2017 Share #32 Posted February 15, 2017 So the notorious "JustAlexander" from from GetDPI Forum is trying to continue his vendetta agains Leica in this thread, too. He has had a bad experience with an S camera in rainy weather, and a dispute with Leica about this. He also started a thread on the same topic here. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/269026-bye-leica-it-was-fun/ It is impossible to know what really has happened in this dispute. I can only say that I have used the S007 in rain, slush and snow, it has been completely wet (but not under water). Many people have had the same experience, without any problems. I have used it in wintery Norway in snow, slush and rain, in dusty safari in Africa, humid Shanghai etc. etc. without any problems. In my opinion the Leica S is as just as weatherproof as advertised, don't be afraid to use it in rough environments. I don't know who JustAlexander is. And just for your information, once I sent my 007 in Leica has said that it can't handle rain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share #33 Posted February 15, 2017 I don't know who JustAlexander is. And just for your information, once I sent my 007 in Leica has said that it can't handle rain. That's not what you said in your topic about this. If you're going to bash Leica please at least be consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHNL Posted February 15, 2017 Share #34 Posted February 15, 2017 Check here for a few 100cron samples. http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1246588/56 I don't post here as I feel the compress make them looks even worse than Flickr. I can assure you that original are very sharp at f2. As other said there is no bad lens in S line. 70mm at around 2000 is a steal, my fovrite 50mm lens next to OTUS55, 35mm is also the best 28mm in FF Focal in the world. 180 is insane good, and 100cron is sharp to corner at F2. The only lens that I feel I can't shoot WO for exteame corner are 24mm, a surprise for me given how people rave about it, I think it is no better than 21SEM. It is soft at f3.5 at extreame corner due to field curvature but f8 clear it well. If you are willing to use contax lens, 45 is actually very good, light and sharp in center. 120 is a super star, almost as good as 180S only lack modern coating make it easy to flare when shooting into the sun. 140 sonnar has one of most beautiful sonnar brokeh at a steal price, though not as sharp as S glass at any aperture. People can trash S all day but there is no other system approach this level of rendering and IQ so consistently. BTW, I personally prefer S006 to 007 for the way I use S system. Hope it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted February 15, 2017 Share #35 Posted February 15, 2017 That's not what you said in your topic about this. If you're going to bash Leica please at least be consistent. Leica has marketed the camera as being weatherproof, even in rainy environments. I even quoted the catalog in the post you're referring to. Mine got caught in a light shower and Leica has since written to me saying that it can't handle rain (it is sealed only against dust and splashes). So, who isn't being consistent? Plus, your term "bash" is over the top. But, hey, take your 007 wherever you want to take it. I just hope that you don't have the same kind of experience as I have had with it. IQ-wise it is a terrific system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share #36 Posted February 15, 2017 So back on topic, after scanning over a bunch more photos I've decided to go with the 45mm Elmarit for my wider angle lens. Anybody compare the 100mm cron to the 120mm apo macro? I did a search here but it didn't bring up much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 15, 2017 Share #37 Posted February 15, 2017 Anybody compare the 100mm cron to the 120mm apo macro? I did a search here but it didn't bring up much. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/236865-which-portrait-lens-100-or-120/ http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/251222-experiences-with-hasselblad-hc-100mm-and-the-leica-100mm-summicron-s/?p=2904001 Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieri Posted February 15, 2017 Share #38 Posted February 15, 2017 About weather sealing, I'd say don't worry: About tripod & head, if you intend to use one, my suggestion is not to try and save money - you'll end up spending way more in the end. You can read this article to see what I mean: https://vieribottazzini.com/2016/08/importance-support-landscape-photography.html Get either a Gitzo Series 3 or, better, Series 4, or a ReallyRightStuff TVC33 or 34L and a suitable head, and you'll be set for life. As far as heads, my favourite is the Arca-Swiss P0: https://vieribottazzini.com/2016/08/arca-swiss-p0-monoball-review.html Hope this helps, best Vieri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
349A Posted February 15, 2017 Share #39 Posted February 15, 2017 The 120 vs 100 is a tough question. I have both and love both and you can't go wrong with either. The 120 is great due to its macro ability besides its usual incredible S look. However, the 100mm I believe will suit you better. Its fast focusing and to me a bit more useful in general purposes with its 80mm equivalent fov. The DOF of both can be tiny if you like, at close focus its like 1mm dof! I think a 45/100 combo is a great starting point. Like many of us, you'll eventually have the 120mm too and probably a lot of others. The 70mm is the bargain of the bunch and is a great way to get started as a one lens solution. Price considerations aside, the 45/100 combo can do almost anything and really would cover you for most situations. For my M and SL, I have always found 35mm to be the most universal and when traveling "light" with the S, the 45 is the lens I take. Last year on a trip to Italy, I did not want a bag full of glass. I took just the 45/100 combo and never felt I was missing anything. I was shooting vintage cars and scenery and used my feet to get things in between to the two focal lengths. Also, I use a Peak Design hand strap which uses a tripod mount plate and is very secure and easily removable. This is my prefered way of carrying the S. Walking the streets all day and its comfortable for a medium format camera. M's and SL I use over the shoulder, the S and a lens is just too big for that, to me. You're going to love the results of the system whichever lens you choose. Having gone down the obsessive route with lenses and picking up all of them except the 180mm and 30mm, if I had to do it again, I might just have stuck with the 45/100 combo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted February 15, 2017 Share #40 Posted February 15, 2017 I also now carry quite often 100 and 45 when I bring the S. inside (for images of the kids) I use 70mm a lot because 100 is a little too long in focal lengths. The 70 and 100mm and for some part the 35mm are the most compfortable to hold. I agree that the 45 is a little front heavy, I wish it was somewhat shorter. But it is a very flexible focal length and beautiful lens. In regards of 100 vs 120 ...I prefer the 100 because of speed, focal langth and smaller size. So far I only keep the 120 for macro reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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