EdwardM Posted January 28, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) guys who owned M9 and M240 - whats your opinion on M10 OOC Jpegs? Please post them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Hi EdwardM, Take a look here M10 JPEGS - please post them. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
CYBORA Posted January 28, 2017 Share #2 Posted January 28, 2017 I cannot upload big files, so here are some small unaesthetic JPEGs I can provide. They are straightly OOC. I can say that the yellows are a bit problematic, maybe a bit much saturated as this can be seen in the night shooting ( The pavement part especially ) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268772-m10-jpegs-please-post-them/?do=findComment&comment=3198773'>More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 28, 2017 Share #3 Posted January 28, 2017 I cannot upload big files, so here are some small unaesthetic JPEGs I can provide. They are straightly OOC. I can say that the yellows are a bit problematic, maybe a bit much saturated as this can be seen in the night shooting ( The pavement part especially ) IMG_9938.JPG IMG_0084.JPG IMG_0090.JPG IMG_9991.JPG Looks like Sodium-vapor street lights there CYBORA. A very yellow light in a very narrow band...I'd expect no camera to be able to change that. see.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-vapor_lamp all best.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 28, 2017 Share #4 Posted January 28, 2017 I cannot upload big files, so here are some small unaesthetic JPEGs I can provide. They are straightly OOC. I can say that the yellows are a bit problematic, maybe a bit much saturated as this can be seen in the night shooting ( The pavement part especially ) That night street scene has so many different color temperatures going on...which one do you want? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 28, 2017 Share #5 Posted January 28, 2017 And the blue light is probably Mercury-vapour street lamp light. One expects subjects to look yellow and blue under those lights. I thought your images looked about the right colours for your various artificial lighting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYBORA Posted January 28, 2017 Share #6 Posted January 28, 2017 Another OOC JPEG taken today Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268772-m10-jpegs-please-post-them/?do=findComment&comment=3199114'>More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 28, 2017 Share #7 Posted January 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Again this is artificial light. The new low power light bulbs have absolutely horrible colour, even to my eyes. Try your camera outside, on a reasonable day. Try auto, sun and cloudy light balance...pictures of people. Make a critical eye assessment at the time, if they have yellow-tinted skin. Then look at your JPG's and see if the camera is exposing too yellow for your taste in skin tones. Inside with artificial light you can do a quick white balance, with a grey card. I often use a white handkerchief. Make sure the light is falling on your reference surface for the white balance. all best... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted January 29, 2017 Share #8 Posted January 29, 2017 If you are using the embedded profile in Lightroom (discussed in other threads) that is why you are getting the strong yellows. Check out the discussions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted January 29, 2017 Share #9 Posted January 29, 2017 I had to scroll up and make sure I was on the right forum. Nobody answered the guy's question about jpegs by telling him to shoot DNG! I got the crap kicked out of me when I brought up shooting jpg on the M240, it's not fair! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted January 29, 2017 Share #10 Posted January 29, 2017 He's a relatively new member... I guess we all thought you should know better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYBORA Posted January 29, 2017 Share #11 Posted January 29, 2017 If you are using the embedded profile in Lightroom (discussed in other threads) that is why you are getting the strong yellows. Check out the discussions. Yes thank you for pointing it out , I already use Adobe Standard profile on LR 6.8 for my photos when I upload photos on my computer , but for instant sharing , JPEGs without this issue would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYBORA Posted January 29, 2017 Share #12 Posted January 29, 2017 I had to scroll up and make sure I was on the right forum. Nobody answered the guy's question about jpegs by telling him to shoot DNG! I got the crap kicked out of me when I brought up shooting jpg on the M240, it's not fair! I think EdwardM's question is great, because now we are in the social media age ( instant sharing ) , so it is normal to expect some good quality JPEGs out of cameras. Leica seems listening to this request, as their JPEG engine has been improved so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 29, 2017 Share #13 Posted January 29, 2017 This test http://www.lesnumeriques.com/appareil-photo-numerique/labo-leica-m10-meilleur-que-m-typ-240-pas-tout-a-fait-n59949.html suggests that the M240 JPEGs are sharper / more sharpened than those from the M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 29, 2017 Share #14 Posted January 29, 2017 This test http://www.lesnumeriques.com/appareil-photo-numerique/labo-leica-m10-meilleur-que-m-typ-240-pas-tout-a-fait-n59949.html suggests that the M240 JPEGs are sharper / more sharpened than those from the M240. Very interesting article...but if you read the entire piece he states that the M10 only offers one JPEG setting and his test is comparing JPEG-FINE on the M240 to JPEG-STANDARD on the M10. Not a fair comparison. A better test would be to compare both at the same settings, although currently the M10 only offers one. IMO, this is fine as I only use jpeg when sharing quickly. Otherwise I use DNG 90% of the time. At the end of the article he tests the DNG files, and the results are very different. The M10 has the edge here...but most interesting is that the file sizes have dropped dramatically. "45.9 MB for those from the M (Typ 240) and only 25.3 MB for those of the M10. 45% lighter!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 29, 2017 Share #15 Posted January 29, 2017 Presumably the embedded jpeg preview is much smaller on the M10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 29, 2017 Share #16 Posted January 29, 2017 Presumably the embedded jpeg preview is much smaller on the M10 Not presumably. They are smaller. As stated in the article you linked: "the JPEGs from the M10 weighed 5.4 MB, against 7.75 MB for those coming from the M (Typ 240): almost 30% Less, that makes a difference! Where does it come from?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 29, 2017 Share #17 Posted January 29, 2017 Should speed up processing. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted January 29, 2017 Share #18 Posted January 29, 2017 More to come... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 29, 2017 Share #19 Posted January 29, 2017 More to come... Is this your article? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 29, 2017 Share #20 Posted January 29, 2017 Very interesting article...but if you read the entire piece he states that the M10 only offers one JPEG setting and his test is comparing JPEG-FINE on the M240 to JPEG-STANDARD on the M10. Not a fair comparison. A better test would be to compare both at the same settings, although currently the M10 only offers one. IMO, this is fine as I only use jpeg when sharing quickly. Otherwise I use DNG 90% of the time. At the end of the article he tests the DNG files, and the results are very different. The M10 has the edge here...but most interesting is that the file sizes have dropped dramatically. "45.9 MB for those from the M (Typ 240) and only 25.3 MB for those of the M10. 45% lighter!" The M10 does have 3 different JPEG settings...they are just in a separate menu. Hopefully the author will redo his tests and compare the L-JPEG files. L-JPEG (24MP) M-JPEG (12MP) S-JPEG (6MP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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