edwardkaraa Posted January 28, 2017 Share #21 Posted January 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have been quite happy with the embedded profile of every Leica I've owned, M9, 240, 262 and SL. I never felt the need to make my own profiles and frankly, I'm not very inclined to such endeavors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Hi edwardkaraa, Take a look here M10 Color - Update in Lr 6.8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Chuck Albertson Posted January 28, 2017 Share #22 Posted January 28, 2017 You can upgrade directly to 6 (6.8) from 5 for $100 if you don't want the CC subscription. It's actually $80 for the upgraded perpetual license (stand-alone version). Go to: https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html Select the full version, click on Buy Now and add it to your shopping cart, then click on the “Full” to bring a drop-down list, change it to upgrade. You also have to select which version you're upgrading from from the drop-down list that pops up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 28, 2017 Share #23 Posted January 28, 2017 Its there. https://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/software._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_catalog_sl_software_sl_photoshopcollection.html Select BUY, then UPGRADE $79 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #24 Posted January 28, 2017 I agree with jaapv and always end up with my own profile. I now have a profile for the Lr 6.8. It is just a starting point for this new camera. I increase Saturation about +10 to +15 depending on the scene and reduce Tint by about -3. Try this on your own and decide for yourself. This is not going to be my end point. Andy where are you? @dkmoore Thanks for that post of the skin tones. Now others can see why I asked if I had the latest ver. of Lr. I upgraded from 5 to 6, but didn't do the update from 6.0 to 6.8. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #25 Posted January 28, 2017 Rick, I posted this in another thread but can't find it now; do you (or anyone else) know if I'll have to update to Lightroom 6 (Creative Cloud) when my M10 arrives? I'm currently using Lightroom 5. Thanks, Mike. Hi Mike. Just one point. When you update to Lr 6 , Adobe does not provide the latest version of Lr 6. You need to download Lr 6 and install then, go to the Help tab and check for updates. It will direct you to update to Lr 6.8. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYBORA Posted January 29, 2017 Share #26 Posted January 29, 2017 Does this Adobe Standard profile for M10 exist in the mobile version of Lightroom ? It would be handy to transfer a DNG to iPhone , apply the profile + little PP before sharing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 29, 2017 Share #27 Posted January 29, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) As discussed elsewhere, Adobe has been making it increasingly difficult for perpetual license (standalone) users to upgrade LR, both within and between major iterations. The obvious ploy is to encourage folks to migrate to CC (10 bucks per month for Photoshop and LR). To make matters worse, starting with LR 6, Adobe stopped including major new features (e.g., various local adjustment tools, etc) within interim upgraded versions of LR (6.1, 6.5, etc) for standalone users, unlike the CC version, which includes access to all benefits upon enrollment. Instead, standalone users get 'minor' (although potentially important) updates like these profile changes, new lens profiles, etc.... but have to wait until the next major release for other features. The likely implication is that sooner or later (maybe with LR 7), the perpetual license/standalone version will be dropped. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted January 29, 2017 Share #28 Posted January 29, 2017 As discussed elsewhere, Adobe has been making it increasingly difficult for perpetual license (standalone) users to upgrade LR, both within and between major iterations. The obvious ploy is to encourage folks to migrate to CC (10 bucks per month for Photoshop and LR). To make matters worse, starting with LR 6, Adobe stopped including major new features (e.g., various local adjustment tools, etc) within interim upgraded versions of LR (6.1, 6.5, etc) for standalone users, unlike the CC version, which includes access to all benefits upon enrollment. Instead, standalone users get 'minor' (although potentially important) updates like these profile changes, new lens profiles, etc.... but have to wait until the next major release for other features. The likely implication is that sooner or later (maybe with LR 7), the perpetual license/standalone version will be dropped. Jeff Its last earnings report said Adobe was planning to do $2.5 billion in share buy-backs this year. The cash has to come from somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted January 29, 2017 Share #29 Posted January 29, 2017 won't be my pocket. I prefer capture one. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
happymac Posted January 29, 2017 Share #30 Posted January 29, 2017 If you really like to get true colours, you should try X‑Rite ColorChecker Passport. I made a profile for my M9 after 6 years of use the LR Adobe profile. The improvements were awesome and I can't believe, why I have waited so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted January 29, 2017 Share #31 Posted January 29, 2017 Hi Mike. Just one point. When you update to Lr 6 , Adobe does not provide the latest version of Lr 6. You need to download Lr 6 and install then, go to the Help tab and check for updates. It will direct you to update to Lr 6.8. Rick Ha, Problem solved. Other users have said that when you try to check for updates LR just says you are 'up to date'. Googling the question 'OS requirements for LR6' I see that to get beyond 6.1 your Mac OS has to be at least 10.9 – whereas I prefer to stay with Mountain Lion for other reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 29, 2017 Share #32 Posted January 29, 2017 To make matters worse, starting with LR 6, Adobe stopped including major new features (e.g., various local adjustment tools, etc) within interim upgraded versions of LR (6.1, 6.5, etc) for standalone users Adobe didn’t change anything in this regard; for new features you always had to wait for the next major (paid) upgrade. Interim updates were for adding support for new cameras and for bug fixes, just as they are now. Only now you can get access to new features earlier if you go for the CC option. If you do not then it’s just like it used to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 30, 2017 Share #33 Posted January 30, 2017 Understood. It looks like the embedded profile is faulty though. It might be but then I never did care that much about embedded profiles anyway. These embedded profiles are just two matrices while an Adobe standard profile (or a custom profile you create yourself) sports a much more powerful look-up table on top of the matrices. There are lots of corrections that are simply impossible to achieve with matrix multiplication alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted January 30, 2017 Share #34 Posted January 30, 2017 It might be but then I never did care that much about embedded profiles anyway. These embedded profiles are just two matrices while an Adobe standard profile (or a custom profile you create yourself) sports a much more powerful look-up table on top of the matrices. There are lots of corrections that are simply impossible to achieve with matrix multiplication alone. Thank you for the interesting information. If I remember correctly, you have mentioned the same about the M9, and indeed, under some artificial light situations, the embedded profile used to produce very ugly results. However in my experience, this hasn't been the case since the 240 onwards. In fact, I rarely encounter a shot that looks better with the adobe standard. I do understand the Adobe profile is more sophisticated, but their color esthetics are a bit boring for my taste. As I mentioned earlier, I don't do my own profiles. I tried it in the past (with the canon 1Ds) and found it wasn't my cup of tea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted January 30, 2017 Share #35 Posted January 30, 2017 I was reading the RAWS are pretty beta based on analysis, so I'd think a big firmware upgrade is coming so which amy effect the issue. Electronic shutter also needs it? There's a reason all these FF cameras have multiple WB settings I never had one that was always perfect... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.w Posted January 30, 2017 Share #36 Posted January 30, 2017 As discussed elsewhere, Adobe has been making it increasingly difficult for perpetual license (standalone) users to upgrade LR, both within and between major iterations. The obvious ploy is to encourage folks to migrate to CC (10 bucks per month for Photoshop and LR). To make matters worse, starting with LR 6, Adobe stopped including major new features (e.g., various local adjustment tools, etc) within interim upgraded versions of LR (6.1, 6.5, etc) for standalone users, unlike the CC version, which includes access to all benefits upon enrollment. Instead, standalone users get 'minor' (although potentially important) updates like these profile changes, new lens profiles, etc.... but have to wait until the next major release for other features. The likely implication is that sooner or later (maybe with LR 7), the perpetual license/standalone version will be dropped. Jeff Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but it seems that with the M10, Leica has stopped bundling a free download for the current standalone version of Lightroom (See photo no. 7 here: http://leicarumors.com/2017/01/18/leica-m10-unboxing-additional-pictures-of-camera-and-accessories.aspx/), which is a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 30, 2017 Share #37 Posted January 30, 2017 Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but it seems that with the M10, Leica has stopped bundling a free download for the current standalone version of Lightroom (See photo no. 7 here: http://leicarumors.com/2017/01/18/leica-m10-unboxing-additional-pictures-of-camera-and-accessories.aspx/), which is a shame. That's a bit of a surprise if it is true. With the M10 there is a whole template included in each raw file for use in Adobe Camera Raw and Light Room processing, pointing to the routines that will be supplied by Adobe when the file gets there and recording how it was processed for future modifications to the final image. In addition, unlike the SL's DNG files, the M10's do not include the nonlinear distortion correction terms that let any raw processor correct for distortion and lateral chromatic aberrations at the edges. Presumably these were communicated to or developed by Adobe for only their customers' use. I suspect that Leica gave more control to Adobe and got less benefit for Leica's customers this time around. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 30, 2017 Share #38 Posted January 30, 2017 Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but it seems that with the M10, Leica has stopped bundling a free download for the current standalone version of Lightroom (See photo no. 7 here: http://leicarumors.com/2017/01/18/leica-m10-unboxing-additional-pictures-of-camera-and-accessories.aspx/), which is a shame. Old news....that happened with cameras manufactured after April 1st last year (no April fools joke). I think the current deal is a 90 day trial version of CC. Hard to say if this was attributed to Leica alone, or due to Adobe (as another ploy to encourage CC subscriptions). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted March 4, 2017 Share #39 Posted March 4, 2017 I decided to change the Adobe Standard profile for the M10 and saved my changed as default. Now I would definitely want to go back to the Adobe Standard profile without my changes. Is there a way to do this although I have overwritten the profile. I should never have done that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 4, 2017 Share #40 Posted March 4, 2017 Just re-process in the develop module. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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