Steve Ash Posted May 30, 2017 Share #181 Posted May 30, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have problems with my Toshiba excerior pro card. As Toshiba is the gold standard for sd cards the problem is clearly on Leica. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted May 30, 2017 Share #182 Posted May 30, 2017 That is funny. The main reason I did not get the M10 is because it lacks Video... It is not a defense, it did not even address the problem at hand. It was genuine puzzlement. If you look back in the forum you'll find that I have been advocating multiple smaller cards for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted May 30, 2017 Share #183 Posted May 30, 2017 The reason to choose an sdxc card was to have fast uploads of the images to my computer. Further it was clearly promoted in the manual. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 30, 2017 Share #184 Posted May 30, 2017 The reason to choose an sdxc card was to have fast uploads of the images to my computer. Further it was clearly promoted in the manual. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro Sandisk Extreme Pro 128 GB = 95 MB/s LexarPro 1000x 16 GB = 150 MB/s The manual tells you to use fast cards, not specifically large cards You could of course get a Toshiba Exceria Pro 128 GB @ 260 MB/s, but at 350 $ is seems to be a bit pricey, and the camera could never keep up (Or your reader, for that matter). A 16 GB card will store 1600 images, a 128 GB card will store 9600. Nuff said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephan54 Posted May 30, 2017 Share #185 Posted May 30, 2017 Leia Store Lisse only sells Lexar, because Leica informed them that they test their cameras with this brand. My SanDisk malfunctioned, the Lexar has not produced unreadable files yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 30, 2017 Share #186 Posted May 30, 2017 Panasonic Gold might be a good choice. These cards include an automatic write/read check, they were the best choice on the M9 as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 30, 2017 Share #187 Posted May 30, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Indeed, and it was not the only one. Mine is totally stable, whichever card I throw at it. I have no explanation. BTW, what is the use of a 128 GB card? Thousands of images on one card. And then the dog chews it... So no M10 buyers come from either M240 or SL users? 128g is very appropriate for those cameras as the video eats up memory. It's very practical to use a card on hand. Besides 32g is problematic, so why not? Or are you saying we should go back to the 2g cards from our M8, and carry 10 cards so if your dog eats one it's fewer images lost? I still have my Leica 512k SD card, it's should hold about 36 images.... ah, back to film! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 30, 2017 Share #188 Posted May 30, 2017 As I read the manual, the 2 GB cards need an extra reformat to be usable at all in the M10 . No, I am not saying that it is needed to go back to small cards for SL and other video-enabled cameras. What I am saying that it appears to be a viable workaround for the (hopefully short) time being on the M10, and I will say that it is a bad idea and a recipe for trouble to swap cards between different cameras. It is far better practice to have dedicated cards for each camera type you own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 30, 2017 Share #189 Posted May 30, 2017 As I read the manual, the 2 GB cards need an extra reformat to be usable at all in the M10 . No, I am not saying that it is needed to go back to small cards for SL and other video-enabled cameras. What I am saying that it appears to be a viable workaround for the (hopefully short) time being on the M10, and I will say that it is a bad idea and a recipe for trouble to swap cards between different cameras. It is far better practice to have dedicated cards for each camera type you own. If a card works, it works! I select my cards on my most extreme need. If 99% of the time it's mostly empty, that's fine. Note: I didn't say to swap cards. I said a card on hand. That could be a new unused spare. I often buy one or two cards just in case, that go unused until an emergency. I agree swapping cards even amongst same model camera is unwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted May 30, 2017 Share #190 Posted May 30, 2017 Sandisk Extreme Pro 128 GB = 95 MB/s LexarPro 1000x 16 GB = 150 MB/s The manual tells you to use fast cards, not specifically large cards You could of course get a Toshiba Exceria Pro 128 GB @ 260 MB/s, but at 350 $ is seems to be a bit pricey, and the camera could never keep up (Or your reader, for that matter). A 16 GB card will store 1600 images, a 128 GB card will store 9600. Nuff said. my card is 32GB. I do not think it is related to card size. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 30, 2017 Share #191 Posted May 30, 2017 As Jaap says, 4K Video on the SL eats up cards almost faster than your dog can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 30, 2017 Share #192 Posted May 30, 2017 As Jaap says, 4K Video on the SL eats up cards almost faster than your dog can He must have a strange dog. Mine ignores them, but my cat bats them around a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjay Posted May 30, 2017 Share #193 Posted May 30, 2017 RU506347018GB I still have my Leica 512k SD card, it's should hold about 36 images.... ah, back to film! In 1999 (the year that SD cards were introduced), I had a Sony MVC-FD95 with 2.1 megapixels and floppy disc drive - we've come a long way! ;>) BTW, my M10 is currently quite stable with SanDisk 16Gb cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 30, 2017 Share #194 Posted May 30, 2017 RU506347018GB In 1999 (the year that SD cards were introduced), I had a Sony MVC-FD95 with 2.1 megapixels and floppy disc drive - we've come a long way! ;>) BTW, my M10 is currently quite stable with SanDisk 16Gb cards Yes, My father had one of those. I went with an Apple QuickTake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJJon Posted May 30, 2017 Share #195 Posted May 30, 2017 That is funny. The main reason I did not get the M10 is because it lacks Video... It is not a defense, it did not even address the problem at hand. It was genuine puzzlement. If you look back in the forum you'll find that I have been advocating multiple smaller cards for years. Funny that you don't even own the camera you are so quick to defend. The M10 manual recommends SD cards "with high capacities and read/write speeds allow data to be recorded and retrieved very quickly." Go figure. Also, I'm not so sure I understand why using an SD card in another device is such a no-no. Assuming a proper full format prior to using it in the new device, there should be no issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJJon Posted May 30, 2017 Share #196 Posted May 30, 2017 A 16 GB card will store 1600 images, a 128 GB card will store 9600. Nuff said. Huh? Uh, no they wont. Not even close. A 16GB card will hold about 350 RAW+JPEG images. I determined this by putting a 16GB card in my M10 = 354, 32GB = 704 I didn't have an available 128GB card that works in the M10 to check, but it is much less than 9600 shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 30, 2017 Share #197 Posted May 30, 2017 Also, I'm not so sure I understand why using an SD card in another device is such a no-no. Assuming a proper full format prior to using it in the new device, there should be no issues. You assume too much. Leica has a history of issues along these lines. Variations even among the same model can even make cards unusable. Apparently between card variations and leica build variations there are often issues. Leica can address most of these issues in firmware, but not always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJJon Posted May 30, 2017 Share #198 Posted May 30, 2017 You assume too much. Leica has a history of issues along these lines. Variations even among the same model can even make cards unusable. Apparently between card variations and leica build variations there are often issues. Leica can address most of these issues in firmware, but not always. Your reply is confusing. My assumption was that using an SD card in another device is fine, assuming you do a full format to the card before using it in another device. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 30, 2017 Share #199 Posted May 30, 2017 Huh? Uh, no they wont. Not even close. A 16GB card will hold about 350 RAW+JPEG images. I determined this by putting a 16GB card in my M10 = 354, 32GB = 704 I didn't have an available 128GB card that works in the M10 to check, but it is much less than 9600 shots. That would be ~1382... depending on if the directory splits twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 30, 2017 Share #200 Posted May 30, 2017 Huh? Uh, no they wont. Not even close. A 16GB card will hold about 350 RAW+JPEG images. I determined this by putting a 16GB card in my M10 = 354, 32GB = 704 I didn't have an available 128GB card that works in the M10 to check, but it is much less than 9600 shots. Well, that might indicate some fault with the card, according to Sandisk's figures. https://www.sandisk.com/about/legal/hd Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edit: Ah - I see the confusion. Sandisk assumes 10 MB JPGs. Still, 128 GB would make over 2800 images according to your figures. 16 GB would probably match battery endurance. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edit: Ah - I see the confusion. Sandisk assumes 10 MB JPGs. Still, 128 GB would make over 2800 images according to your figures. 16 GB would probably match battery endurance. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268663-sd-card-compatibility-issue/?do=findComment&comment=3285643'>More sharing options...
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