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Yes, all shots are at f/5.6. To my eye the rendering of this lens wide open is where the magic is. The vignetting is part of its charm and I don't try to eliminate it in post. In fact, I really like the results out the M10 with this lens and there is hardly any PP on them.

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I am sure there is no manual code for lens detection for the 28mm Summaron, or is there?  

 

Without automatic lens correction on the M9 the old version showed some "italian flag syndrome". The best way to eleminate this was the code for the 1:2.8/21mm Elmarit (pre. asph). But this ironed out the "natural" vignetting of the lens. So it will be interesting to see what  it looks like with the M10 without activating any correction.

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I also didn't think much of the new 28 Summaron when I decided to buy it.  I just wanted a tiny 28 lens for walking around instead of my bulky 28 Summilux (which I love, except for its size/weight).  When I bought the M10 a 28 Summaron was available so I got it but didn't mount it for two weeks (I wanted to first test the M10 with the Summilux lenses I know).  Then one day I mounted it for the first time and... it has hardly come off my M10 since.

 

I like the 28 Summaron a lot, in full sunshine.  It's quite sharp and I like the rendering and the strong vignetting at f/5.6.  And of course the tiny size is wonderful and the brass/chrome finish is a delight.

 

Out of the sun the results are ok, but nothing spectacular. 

 

ELAN, I'd be very interested to see some examples of the 'out of the sun nothing spectacular' photographs, perhaps a new thread in the Lens section?

 

Mike.

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I'd be very interested to see some examples of the 'out of the sun nothing spectacular' photographs

 

I already deleted the indoor test shots in artificial lighting but I will take some this weekend.  Here's one in natural light shot on M10, wide open, with more post processing that the previous outdoors photos.

 

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I think SL is autofocus M10.

 

No, the SL was first, and considerably so in the world of digital....

 

I am not poo pooing it, especially not in a thread full of light-pocketed M10 enthusiasts.  But I do wonder whether we should expect more from Leica's brand new flagship premium digital rangefinder.

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In a way I agree dr.mike, but I would never describe it as feature junkie and purists. Lets just say in my view the SL is what the M is not, and vice versa. Either of them are fine cameras for different purposes but with a lot of overlap.

 

I like the M as to the SL, it is more discreet. It weighs a little less and has less bulk. With M lenses you have  a complete system and no adapters needed.

 

With the SL and the 2 zooms in particular you have the brave AF world. With the M the manual focus world.

 

Neither is better than the other. Maybe they complement each other in full-frame world.

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I wasn't referring to the similarities in features, or even build, but rather the SENSOR.   

The colors and rendition of these images look identical to those in the SL image thread.

 

 

 

The M is a line of pure cameras, the SL is the start of a new more technical line. The SL is for feature junkies while the M is for purists.

 

 

In a way I agree dr.mike, but I would never describe it as feature junkie and purists. Lets just say in my view the SL is what the M is not, and vice versa. Either of them are fine cameras for different purposes but with a lot of overlap.

 

I like the M as to the SL, it is more discreet. It weighs a little less and has less bulk. With M lenses you have  a complete system and no adapters needed.

 

With the SL and the 2 zooms in particular you have the brave AF world. With the M the manual focus world.

 

Neither is better than the other. Maybe they complement each other in full-frame world.

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The colors and rendition of these images look identical to those in the SL image thread.

 

 

 

I guess it's the 'Leica look'.  Will be consistent across their camera range M, SL, Q, X it's just the method of capturing the image that varies.

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Thanks.  The Summaron 28/5.6 has such strong vignetting that at f/5.6 anything outside the center appears slightly underexposed. 

 

I think the digital sensor exaggerates the optical vignetting of this lens (or perhaps more accurately, there is both digital vignetting due to the angle of light hitting the sensor and the mechanical optical vignetting). On film, the new Summaron shows significantly less vignetting at F5.6.

 

 

And then fight with the strong vignetting and the missing sharpness.

 

 

What missing sharpness? This is a very sharp lens.

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I guess it's the 'Leica look'.  Will be consistent across their camera range M, SL, Q, X it's just the method of capturing the image that varies.

Yes, that makes sense - the commoditization of Leica digital.

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I guess it's the 'Leica look'.  Will be consistent across their camera range M, SL, Q, X it's just the method of capturing the image that varies.

 

Not true at all. For example, the M9 and the M240 color renditions are very different. Take the yellows and reds of the M240: you can try to use camera profiles and adjust skin tones to look how you think they should but, then, the other colors will be off.

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Not true at all. For example, the M9 and the M240 color renditions are very different. Take the yellows and reds of the M240: you can try to use camera profiles and adjust skin tones to look how you think they should but, then, the other colors will be off.

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Yes my point exactly. In those days the digital lines, M8, M9 and M240 each had a different sensor and thus a very different rendition.

In the most recent generation: Q, SL, M10, same sensor same rendition, even though they were released at very different points in time.

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