michaelwj Posted January 18, 2017 Share #21 Posted January 18, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looking back to 1978... Photographer #1: Did you hear the new M4-2 has no self-timer! Photographer #2: No way, I'll never buy a camera without a self-timer! P#1: I know, why on earth would they go backwards like that, removing well established technology? P#2: Don't worry, I'm sure it will be included as an option later on. Remember the M2! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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david strachan Posted January 18, 2017 Share #22 Posted January 18, 2017 Thanks Andreas. Nice looking camera with good specs; congratulations to all at Team Leica.. all best... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 18, 2017 Share #23 Posted January 18, 2017 It will be an option. . Do you know this to be true? There is no optional multifunction grip just a standard grip. I am trying to get details but someone posted that USB is not happening. This is the worst kind of bad for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest )-( Posted January 18, 2017 Share #24 Posted January 18, 2017 Is it a moveable focus point on the EVF? From looking at the linked specs, I think it's 125 second maximum bulb exposure? Anyone confirm that? How is the Visoflex compared to the M240 one? Can anyone who used one comment? Is it another where there's a cheaper but identical other brand version? I love the drama of new product launch, consumerist emotions running high, choose life, choose a Bizofurex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 18, 2017 Share #25 Posted January 18, 2017 I know the Visoflex from the T and also own the VF2 from the M. Visoflex much better IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0c0m0 Posted January 18, 2017 Share #26 Posted January 18, 2017 M240 is heavier and seems thicker (as least how I felt when holding it) than my M9-P and M-D. Yes, I skipped M240 because it is a heavy tank to me. I read that M10 is thinner than M240. Just wonder how it size is compared with M9-P and M-D which are definitely lighter than M240. I guess I can wait for the all black/no logo M10-P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Fanatic Posted January 18, 2017 Share #27 Posted January 18, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) M240 is heavier and seems thicker (as least how I felt when holding it) than my M9-P and M-D. Yes, I skipped M240 because it is a heavy tank to me. I read that M10 is thinner than M240. Just wonder how it size is compared with M9-P and M-D which are definitely lighter than M240. I guess I can wait for the all black/no logo M10-P M10 is same dimensions as film m, so smaller that M9 etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 19, 2017 Share #28 Posted January 19, 2017 Do you know this to be true? There is no optional multifunction grip just a standard grip. I am trying to get details but someone posted that USB is not happening. This is the worst kind of bad for me. There is no USB, neither optional nor standard. Not that I would miss it … If Wi-Fi is not your thing you can use a card reader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 19, 2017 Share #29 Posted January 19, 2017 There is no USB, neither optional nor standard. Not that I would miss it … If Wi-Fi is not your thing you can use a card reader. Wifi is useless and so is a card reader on a shoot. This really is utterly terrible, it's a total shooting in the foot scenario and has just instantly cut some users off. Why wouldn't they put it in a grip like the 240? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 19, 2017 Share #30 Posted January 19, 2017 Wifi is useless and so is a card reader on a shoot. This really is utterly terrible, it's a total shooting in the foot scenario and has just instantly cut some users off. Why wouldn't they put it in a grip like the 240? No idea but then I have stopped using USB years ago. As far as I am concerned Wi-Fi and a card reader are both fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 19, 2017 Share #31 Posted January 19, 2017 No idea but then I have stopped using USB years ago. As far as I am concerned Wi-Fi and a card reader are both fine. The entire professional industry uses a USB cord to tether with. You can't replace this with wifi and a card reader is out of the question in these situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted January 19, 2017 Share #32 Posted January 19, 2017 I'm impressed. The M10 is going to by my next Leica. Better viewfinder, 24MP, Wi-Fi rings the bells in my wish list. Heck, maybe I'll get two. Thank you, Leica! Pico, didn't you just get another M9?! I think the M10 spec looks brilliant. I'm not in the least interested in USB or wi-fi. But worth noting Macs switched to USB-C with the Macbook and this looks like the new standard -- for now, but of course, that may change yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2017 Share #33 Posted January 19, 2017 Wifi is useless and so is a card reader on a shoot. This really is utterly terrible, it's a total shooting in the foot scenario and has just instantly cut some users off. Why wouldn't they put it in a grip like the 240? Well, actually I do not think the M is aimed specifically at professionals. The target customer base is advanced amateur who demand professional level quality. There is little profit to be gained from professional users, apart from high-profile marketing assets, I fear. As for cutting users off, I can easily share your feelings, though, as Leica seems to try and force me into a camera I do not really like, i.e. the SL. Won't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 19, 2017 Share #34 Posted January 19, 2017 Well, actually I do not think the M is aimed specifically at professionals. The target customer base is advanced amateur who demand professional level quality. There is little profit to be gained from professional users, apart from high-profile marketing assets, I fear. As for cutting users off, I can easily share your feelings, though, as Leica seems to try and force me into a camera I do not really like, i.e. the SL. Won't work. I agree it's not aimed at professionals. But they have been marketed to and using the camera happily, with the basic function that they expect is just there. To take it away like this is in my opinion one of the most stupid things ever, drastically reducing it's function, when it could be kept as an optional grip. This is effectively the end of it's useful life. I have spent a small fortune on it to this date with 3 bodies and 7 lenses and now I face the a dead end future and a need to find another solution. There is no way I will ever buy an SL. I will not support a company that does not support its users. My plan B was an S - as if! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivi1969 Posted January 19, 2017 Share #35 Posted January 19, 2017 For the pictures and dpreview video, does the camera has a more matte finish than previous M models? I see it is flat black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 19, 2017 Share #36 Posted January 19, 2017 The M10 looks very interesting as an upgrade from the M9. I don't care much for video, USB. Size and weight are important for me. WiFi certainly has potential especially if it can be used to activate, control, trigger more camera functions. I would be keen to hear more reviews on the sensor performance and color rendering as compared to M9 and M240. Also curious to hear feedback on viewfinder usage for users wearing spectacles, and the visoflex performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 19, 2017 Share #37 Posted January 19, 2017 Also curious to hear feedback on viewfinder usage for users wearing spectacles, and the visoflex performance. The increased viewfinder magnification is supposed to be a boon for users wearing spectacles but as a matter of fact I prefer the viewfinder of the M (Typ 240). But that’s just me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted January 19, 2017 Share #38 Posted January 19, 2017 The M10 looks very interesting as an upgrade from the M9. I don't care much for video, USB. Size and weight are important for me. WiFi certainly has potential especially if it can be used to activate, control, trigger more camera functions. I would be keen to hear more reviews on the sensor performance and color rendering as compared to M9 and M240. Also curious to hear feedback on viewfinder usage for users wearing spectacles, and the visoflex performance. Plus one to all those points except wi-fi. I am sure there will soon be more threads commenting on all of these aspects... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted January 19, 2017 Share #39 Posted January 19, 2017 For the pictures and dpreview video, does the camera has a more matte finish than previous M models? I see it is flat black. It's black chrome rather than black paint. Same as the Monochrom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted January 19, 2017 Share #40 Posted January 19, 2017 I agree it's not aimed at professionals. But they have been marketed to and using the camera happily, with the basic function that they expect is just there. To take it away like this is in my opinion one of the most stupid things ever, drastically reducing it's function, when it could be kept as an optional grip. This is effectively the end of it's useful life. I have spent a small fortune on it to this date with 3 bodies and 7 lenses and now I face the a dead end future and a need to find another solution. There is no way I will ever buy an SL. I will not support a company that does not support its users. My plan B was an S - as if! Well, I guess the fact that Leica will continue to offer the M(240) for those wanting tethering, this isn't the end of the world - it just means that this version of the M isn't for you. As it also has "only" 24MP, it isn't for you anyway ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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