crony Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7721 Posted July 27, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, Autobahn-photography, a special kind of street-photography,😉 on the A3, heading south (M9 - Elmarit 2,8/28 v4, f 5,6 ; crop) : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246214'>More sharing options...
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Guest JMF Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7722 Posted July 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, yorda@ said: Following our conversation, Colors aren’t that off;) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Yes, all is well ! 50 Kinoptik f2 - M3 - Provia 100 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Yes, all is well ! 50 Kinoptik f2 - M3 - Provia 100 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246216'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7723 Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, yorda@ said: Really nice Ecar, didn’t thought the 35 will fit this nicely in the M10M Thanks. Well, the Kino 35/2 doesn't quite cover the FF sensor entirely (esp. wide open at infinity, of course), but a proper conversion should get you nearly there. Small dark corners and/or some degree of fall-off are to be expected depending on subject distance and aperture. If it bothers you, you can either (a) choose your subjects carefully, (b) remove some vignetting in post or (c) take it into account when framing and very slightly crop your images - or a combination of these. I try to avoid (c) but it's sometimes inevitable. Yes, this is one of the lenses that make you work for your images, but isn't it part of the fun? Here's another one, again with the Kinoptik 35/2 on the M10M (f/2 or f/2.8, no crop, using (a) method😉 only). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246227'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7724 Posted July 27, 2021 This one is the result of applying both method (a) and a bit of (b). No crop. Btw, colours are gorgeous too with this lens - rich, warm, cinematic. I must have posted a couple here a while ago, but I'll try and get some more. M10M + 195X converted Kinoptik Apochromat 35/2, wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246229'>More sharing options...
yorda@ Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7725 Posted July 27, 2021 Of course it’s part of the fun! I use Ms Optics too you know! Ahah And yes we need to see some color shots, I’ll try to add some with his bigger brother soon too 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7726 Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Following the above discussion, I usually crop the (full frame 3x2) shots taken with the 35 Kinoptik f2 lenses to the 4X3 format: 35mm Kinoptik Foyer f2 Leica M converted on the SL 601, 4X3 cropped: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! At a very close distance, the vignetting goes away: Same combo in full frame 3x2 (no crop): Best , JM. Edited July 27, 2021 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! At a very close distance, the vignetting goes away: Same combo in full frame 3x2 (no crop): Best , JM. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246254'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7727 Posted July 27, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Uncropped shot taken with the 35 Kinoptik f2 Focale on the M10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Uncropped shot taken with the 35 Kinoptik f2 Focale on the M10 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246257'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7728 Posted July 27, 2021 One of my favourite spots... M10P ASC + 1949 Angenieux S1 50/1.8 (Rectaflex converted to M), wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246370'>More sharing options...
genji Posted July 27, 2021 Share #7729 Posted July 27, 2021 Leica M10-P & Summicron Rigid 50mm F2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246453'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted July 28, 2021 Share #7730 Posted July 28, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 50 Kinoptik f2 - Provia 100 - M3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 50 Kinoptik f2 - Provia 100 - M3 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246807'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted July 28, 2021 Share #7731 Posted July 28, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 50 Kinoptik f2 - Provia 100 - M3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 50 Kinoptik f2 - Provia 100 - M3 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246808'>More sharing options...
349A Posted July 28, 2021 Share #7732 Posted July 28, 2021 M10M with Summicron 50mm Rigid V1 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246813'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 28, 2021 Share #7733 Posted July 28, 2021 M10P ASC + 1949 Angenieux S1 50/1.8 (Rectaflex converted to M), 1st @ f/5.6 and 2nd @ f/2.8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4246829'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 28, 2021 Share #7734 Posted July 28, 2021 M10P ASC + 1954 Angenieux S21 50/1.5 (Rectaflex converted to M), both wide open, 2nd one @ MFD Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4247085'>More sharing options...
rcusick Posted July 29, 2021 Share #7735 Posted July 29, 2021 Hollywood. M10r 35mm summilux pre apsh v2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcusick Posted July 29, 2021 Share #7736 Posted July 29, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4247231'>More sharing options...
OSEGAL Posted July 29, 2021 Share #7737 Posted July 29, 2021 summilux 35 pre-asph v2 m6 tmax 400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4247390'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 29, 2021 Share #7738 Posted July 29, 2021 One of the finest Sonnars IMO. This lens never ceases to impress me, no matter the version. This is from a (lighter) BP v1 copy. M10M + 1956 Nikkor 85/2 LTM, wide open @ MFD Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4247543'>More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share #7739 Posted July 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ecar said: One of the finest Sonnars IMO. This lens never ceases to impress me, no matter the version. This is from a (lighter) BP v1 copy. M10M + 1956 Nikkor 85/2 LTM, wide open @ MFD I assume that the 85/2 is a Nikkor Sonnar design rather than a bona fide Sonnar that was specially produced for Nippon Kogaku Tokyo by Zeiss? (For the avoidance of doubt I'm not suggesting that this affects the lens's excellent performance in any way.) Pete. 1945 Carl Zeiss 50/2 Sonnar with M10. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4247552'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 29, 2021 Share #7740 Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, farnz said: I assume that the 85/2 is a Nikkor Sonnar design rather than a bona fide Sonnar that was specially produced for Nippon Kogaku Tokyo by Zeiss? (For the avoidance of doubt I'm not suggesting that this affects the lens's excellent performance in any way.) Pete. 1945 Carl Zeiss 50/2 Sonnar with M10. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Lovely picture, Pete! To your question: I guess (although I may well be wrong) that it would have been below Zeiss to produce a lens for Nippon Kogaku, although they did provide them with glass for a few years after the war, before the Japanese glass industry managed to (re)build itself. So yes, it's indeed a Japanese design derived from the Zeiss one. My understanding is that NK chose to copy the Zeiss design because it was cheap to manufacture, and could therefore have been introduced on the Japanese market at an acceptable price point. And they simplified it further by replacing the last cemented element with a single one: 5 elements in 3 groups for the Nikkor, vs 6/7 elements (not sure, have seen conflicting sources, may depend on date/version) also in 3 groups for the Zeiss Sonnar. Incidentally, the wonderful Nikkor 85/1.5 is a more classic Sonnar type and retains a cemented rear triplet. Crucially, however, NK appears to have focused on the coatings: the Nikkor 85/2 barely flares, even without its small hood, especially in its latest incarnations made in the late 50s - early 60s. Despite being the original inventors of lens coatings, it seems to me that this is an area where Zeiss had to play catch up: in my experience, only the Zeiss-Opton T 85/2 gets close to the Nikkor in terms of flare resistance. This may explain - pure conjecture on my part - why Nikkor lenses became so popular with photojournalists (famously including DDD) at the time. Here's another with the 1956 Nikkor 85/2 BP LTM on the M10M, again wide open @ MFD. For the sake of it, it's the same subject and light as one of those I posted yesterday with a different camera/lens combination. Oh, and for the avoidance of doubt, any comments on lens performance (as long as they go even slightly beyond "good lens" or "bad glass") are perfectly fine by me - and actually welcome: in case you didn't notice after all these years, I'm more of an observer, not a proud owner😉 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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