IWC Doppel Posted September 23, 2012 Share #121 Posted September 23, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) A few in low light high ISO last night (a meet up following a visit to the HiFi show !), in the following order 35 Summilux Aspherical , 35 Summaron f2.8, 50 Summilux Version II Straight B&W jpg's so would look better if I processed RAW Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2122766'>More sharing options...
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philipus Posted September 23, 2012 Share #122 Posted September 23, 2012 Nice ones IWC, look plenty good to me! The Summilux II has a nice rendering I think. How did you find the Summaron? And did you use the M9P for these? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share #123 Posted September 23, 2012 Hugo Meyer Kino Plasmat 75mm f1.5 + Leica Monochrom Jeff, You are extending our knowledge in astounding ways. Thank you so much for posting here and please don't stop! I'm particularly interested to see how your M-Monochrom performs with the diverse lenses you have access to. Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 23, 2012 Share #124 Posted September 23, 2012 Nice ones IWC, look plenty good to me! The Summilux II has a nice rendering I think. How did you find the Summaron? And did you use the M9P for these? Philipus, tks for the comments, yes M9-P, straight jpg's. I am still getting to understand and experiment with the Summaron, fist impressions are sharp but not overly sharp, seems to work well in low light and high ISO, somehow quite filmic. The out of focus is very gradual with a bit of life and very soft with the right shot. Not overly 3D but very classic. I am liking it more and more as I use it. I'll keep you posted with my thoughts fro what they are worth ! A few with high ISO again straight jpg (sorry for being lazy), top and bottom 1600 ISO, middle 1000 ISO all f2.8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2122907'>More sharing options...
Wowmeta Posted September 23, 2012 Share #125 Posted September 23, 2012 Cat with M9 / Visoflex / Bellow / Preminar (Zeiss-Ikon) f4,5 / 13,5cm from 1915-1930. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2123103'>More sharing options...
Jaybob Posted September 24, 2012 Share #126 Posted September 24, 2012 Nice ones IWC, look plenty good to me! The Summilux II has a nice rendering I think. How did you find the Summaron? And did you use the M9P for these? SU-MI-LUXX SU-MI-LUXX Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 24, 2012 Share #127 Posted September 24, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would be interested in seeing a few pictures of old glass on your M's and any advice when looking to pick up an example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted September 24, 2012 Share #128 Posted September 24, 2012 The best is naturally to inspect the lens personally (flash light test, take a few shots if you have a digital body, check mechanics, check for oil on blades etc). But if that isn't possible, it is good to buy from someone who offers a reasonable return privilege or warranty. Usually that means well-known dealers. Here's one of the Hektor 2,8 f6.3 on my M6TTL BP (iPhone 4S, Mpro, apologies for the camera shake). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2123362'>More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted September 24, 2012 Share #129 Posted September 24, 2012 one with the old 5cm Elmar from an early morning walk today: portrait - man with beard by teknopunk.com, on Flickr 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffoJeffo Posted September 24, 2012 Share #130 Posted September 24, 2012 Another shots using the below set up : Ross London Xpress 3" f/1.9 + S2 body. Really like the skin tone from this lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 15 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2123576'>More sharing options...
JeffoJeffo Posted September 24, 2012 Share #131 Posted September 24, 2012 Jeff, You are extending our knowledge in astounding ways. Thank you so much for posting here and please don't stop! I'm particularly interested to see how your M-Monochrom performs with the diverse lenses you have access to. Pete. Hi Pete : Thank you for the supports as well. I am happy to share my photos here with you all. I am also happy that I found a group of people that are interested in these old lenses. It's great to see how they perform with the new technologies. Cheers, Jeff 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted September 24, 2012 Share #132 Posted September 24, 2012 I agree with Pete, it's really great to see results of lenses one has only heard of, let alone barely seen. Btw would you be able to post an image or two of the S2 with these lenses mounted? Dirk, did you use a Red Scale Elmar for the portrait of the man with the beard? Seems very sharp indeed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffoJeffo Posted September 24, 2012 Share #133 Posted September 24, 2012 I agree with Pete, it's really great to see results of lenses one has only heard of, let alone barely seen. Btw would you be able to post an image or two of the S2 with these lenses mounted? Dirk, did you use a Red Scale Elmar for the portrait of the man with the beard? Seems very sharp indeed. Hi Philipus : Here is the set up of this Ross London Xpress 3" f1.9 + S2 Cheers, Jeff Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2123608'>More sharing options...
JeffoJeffo Posted September 24, 2012 Share #134 Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) One more set up using Angenieux S3 75mm f1.8 + S2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 24, 2012 by JeffoJeffo 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2123610'>More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted September 24, 2012 Share #135 Posted September 24, 2012 Another shots using the below set up : Ross London Xpress 3" f/1.9 + S2 body. Really like the skin tone from this lens. Jeff, these are most beautiful tones, a beautiful subject and a wonderful portrait! I am indeed seriously confused, why of all the photography involved manufacturers, Leica is not offering a contemporary second range of optics with the beautiful tonalities, lower contrasts and wanted optical flaws, that makes certain vintage lenses so beautiful. Am I the only one, who has not the slightest interest in the newest optical achievements from Leica? I indeed respect them and have an admiration of the needed perfectionism and motivation, to pursue the goals, Leica wants to achieve with every generation of optics, but how indeed is it possible, that only this one aspect of scientifically correct optical evolution is pursued, while people, who love this beautiful classic look have no other chance, as find among the vast selection of classic lenses the few, that speak to the eye and the heart? With every new lens, I fall for and buy, I am feeling being let down by Leica - a cold shiver, followed by disinterest and nonuse of the expensive item. Such inexpensive and simple optics, like a 50 years or more old Japanese rangefinder lens by contrast let's my heart jump, every time, I have it on the camera and see the difference in rendering … I agree with Pete, it's really great to see results of lenses one has only heard of, let alone barely seen. Btw would you be able to post an image or two of the S2 with these lenses mounted? Dirk, did you use a Red Scale Elmar for the portrait of the man with the beard? Seems very sharp indeed. Philip, this is a standard issue coated post war Elmar, no red scale sample. It is the only Elmar, I have tried so far and I am impressed by it's performance for such an very old and simple design. This is a lens, I always come back to, when I need a reality check after being lured in gear dreaming and lens lust. It is not much more, one ever needs, to create photographs. Why all the longing for multi thousand EUR investments in latest optical wonders from Solms, if you can have the lens, that made the factory famous for a mere few hundred EUR or less … 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOP666 Posted September 24, 2012 Share #136 Posted September 24, 2012 I've been on the road for a week or so, here's couple of shots. Skye, Chicago Leica M9, f2/35mm Summicron lens, 2nd version. L1012272.jpg by COOP666, on Flickr Superdawg, Chicago Leica M9, f2/35mm Summicron lens, 2nd version. L1012318.jpg by COOP666, on Flickr In the canyons, somewhere in Nevada Leica M9, f2/35mm Summicron lens, 2nd version. L1012023.jpg by COOP666, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffoJeffo Posted September 24, 2012 Share #137 Posted September 24, 2012 Jeff, these are most beautiful tones, a beautiful subject and a wonderful portrait!I am indeed seriously confused, why of all the photography involved manufacturers, Leica is not offering a contemporary second range of optics with the beautiful tonalities, lower contrasts and wanted optical flaws, that makes certain vintage lenses so beautiful. Am I the only one, who has not the slightest interest in the newest optical achievements from Leica? I indeed respect them and have an admiration of the needed perfectionism and motivation, to pursue the goals, Leica wants to achieve with every generation of optics, but how indeed is it possible, that only this one aspect of scientifically correct optical evolution is pursued, while people, who love this beautiful classic look have no other chance, as find among the vast selection of classic lenses the few, that speak to the eye and the heart? With every new lens, I fall for and buy, I am feeling being let down by Leica - a cold shiver, followed by disinterest and nonuse of the expensive item. Such inexpensive and simple optics, like a 50 years or more old Japanese rangefinder lens by contrast let's my heart jump, every time, I have it on the camera and see the difference in rendering … Philip, this is a standard issue coated post war Elmar, no red scale sample. It is the only Elmar, I have tried so far and I am impressed by it's performance for such an very old and simple design. This is a lens, I always come back to, when I need a reality check after being lured in gear dreaming and lens lust. It is not much more, one ever needs, to create photographs. Why all the longing for multi thousand EUR investments in latest optical wonders from Solms, if you can have the lens, that made the factory famous for a mere few hundred EUR or less … Hi, Menos : I fully agrees with you. I have almost full range of Leica lenses but I have not touch them for a long time. Shooting with Leica lenses, I can expect how the photo will comes out (not talking about compositon, etc..) I refer to the taste and mood. However with the old lenses, I really don't know what it can offers until I press the shutter. The modern lenses are too perfect (guide by computers and banch marks) but our eyes doesn't lies...so you will see the differences that old lens are more fun in terms of contrast, tone and rendering. I am still fastinated by them, the manufacturing optical flaws becomes the signature of each old lens. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianv Posted September 24, 2012 Share #138 Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Well, if Leica came out with an IR version of the M Monochrom I would buy one with the APO Summicron.... for work. But at home, I tend to use older lenses. The exception is the C-Sonnar, lives on the M8. This is one of my first outings with the M8, and a 1939 Sonnar T 5cm F1.5. At F4. 1939_sonnar_LeicaM8 by anachronist1, on Flickr nikki_tireswing_f4 by anachronist1, on Flickr My oldest fully coated Sonnar is from 1936. The coatings hold up amazingly well. Edited September 24, 2012 by brianv 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted September 25, 2012 Share #139 Posted September 25, 2012 tele-elmar 135mm f/4 1965 vintage (based on s/n) with m9, quick street focus .... hard to get just right, but when you do it is a very rewarding lens on m9 and m4 (little easier to focus on m4, or so it seems). on 23rd st in manhattan .... ps, great thread, hope it just keeps going and going ... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=2124182'>More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted September 25, 2012 Share #140 Posted September 25, 2012 I am not certain, but I would wager to 90%, that this is shot with my 35/2 UC-Hexanon. As the company doesn't produce rangefinder cameras anymore and the UC-Hex is a limited run production, long out of the shops, I hope, it's fine, to post it here. I certainly love the look of this lens, among my absolute favorite 35mm lenses (and way above any Leica samples at that): couple on electro bike by teknopunk.com, on Flickr … and another with the UC-Hex: men sorting fruits and meat by teknopunk.com, on Flickr … and one more: facade structures by teknopunk.com, on Flickr Where does the UC hex stand for me? It's more compact, even then the black Canon 35/2 LTM (another favorite of mine). It's the best made 35mm rangefinder lens, I have the pleasure, to use so far (yes, it is better made, than any Leica 35mm Summicron). It is similar in sharpness and detail to the nicest of the Leica Summicron lenses. It has a slightly different contrast character and tonality from Leica lenses. I would state it to be a cross between a pre ASPH Summilux, ASPH Summicron and version IV Summicron in contrast and tonality. It has the beautiful slightly lower contrast and slightest bit of softness wide open, that I like so much, but get's contrasty and very modern for a non ASPH lens, right from 1/2 stop closed (setting it apart from the pre ASPH Leica lenses). It has the most modern look from wide open of all the non ASPH 35/2 lenses, I have used so far (it should be the dream lens for everybody, who prefers non ASPH lenses, but likes a rather contrasty look). It is extremely forgiving in strongly backlit scenes (absolute opposite of the pre ASPH Summilux here). It never completely clips the blacks, like the latest ASPH Leica lenses do (which is, why I absolutely love this lens). AND: it has a background rendering among the smoothest of them all (no way, to argue, which of them has the smoothest in fact ;-) 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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