ECohen Posted December 24, 2016 Share #121 Posted December 24, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't have a M (240) to sell but it looks like my M9 will be going back to Leica for its second sensor swap. That's 3 for 3 sensor replacements with my Leica CCD cameras. As much as I don't like to admit it, I may be forced into buying the M10. Sure, I wanted a 36 MP camera but if it comes to a choice between size of camera and the MP count, the smaller size of the M style cameras wins. So I'll probably keep my M9 and Monochrom and sell my S2 to fund the M10. At least that is what I'm thinking today. And I can't get worked up on the EVF issue. I don't use one now and would probably only use one for the very occasional macro shot. Video... who cares? Not to be a fair weather saylor .......but if I had 3 replacement sensors in my 240mp........ I be a Sony convert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Printmaker Posted December 24, 2016 Share #122 Posted December 24, 2016 Not to be a fair weather saylor .......but if I had 3 replacement sensors in my 240mp........ I be a Sony convert I had considered replacing my S2 with a Nikon 810 and still might go that route if Leica puts an outrageous price on the new M10. I'd still keep my M9 and Monocrom though. However, I may follow Pico's lead and get a second M9 for those occasions when one is in the shop. I'm not sure why but I never bonded with the M240. Too many bumps and buttons I guess. Same was true for the SL. I like a tool that fits my hand and is instinctive to operate. I'm hoping the M10 fills that bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Black Posted December 24, 2016 Share #123 Posted December 24, 2016 You already stated in your opening post that it was in perfect condition.....the question 'what's wrong' should have obviously been taken in context, i.e., what's lacking or prompting interest in pursuing another camera that's otherwise 'perfect'. I think the answer is GAS. Jeff Something needs to be broken or deficient in some manner in order to want or justify replacing it? Digital stuffs generally improve from one generation to the next, so by all means, give me a "better" M. Why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted December 24, 2016 Share #124 Posted December 24, 2016 I'm not sure why but I never bonded with the M240. Too many bumps and buttons I guess. Same was true for the SL. I like a tool that fits my hand and is instinctive to operate. I'm hoping the M10 fills that bill. I bought an M-D and have experienced none of the "bonding" problems that some speak of with the M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 24, 2016 Share #125 Posted December 24, 2016 I bought an M-D and have experienced none of the "bonding" problems that some speak of with the M240. I'm not surprised... that 'some' is a very, very small number... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted December 24, 2016 Share #126 Posted December 24, 2016 I'm not surprised... that 'some' is a very, very small number... Chemical bonds versus spiritual ones. The 240 may not have fused to my right paw, but my soul, thats a different matter altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 24, 2016 Share #127 Posted December 24, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Something needs to be broken or deficient in some manner in order to want or justify replacing it? Surely not.....it's generally called GAS. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 24, 2016 Share #128 Posted December 24, 2016 I don't have a M (240) to sell but it looks like my M9 will be going back to Leica for its second sensor swap. That's 3 for 3 sensor replacements with my Leica CCD cameras. As much as I don't like to admit it, I may be forced into buying the M10. This is happening with my MM1 right now, two new sensors with dead pixels and/or dead vertical pixel-lines (in landscape position). Bad end-controls I'm afraid. So I'll have to wait for my MM10... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 24, 2016 Share #129 Posted December 24, 2016 Something needs to be broken or deficient in some manner in order to want or justify replacing it? Digital stuffs generally improve from one generation to the next, so by all means, give me a "better" M. Why not? Specifications may improve. Usage and results often not that much or not at all. Let's not fool ourselves. This is about little monkeys discarding the apple they are eating to try and grab the next one that they think might fall from the tree Does anyone seriously believe that his photographs will improve by a marginally smaller camera with a nicer EVF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted December 24, 2016 Share #130 Posted December 24, 2016 Does anyone seriously believe that his photographs will improve by a marginally smaller camera with a nicer EVF? ............Yea those that believe and the newbies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 24, 2016 Share #131 Posted December 24, 2016 Not sure that quests for improvement need any justification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 24, 2016 Share #132 Posted December 24, 2016 Not sure that quests for improvement need any justification. They need self- and significant other justification at least. On this forum we see fine examples of peer-justification. I am questioning the reality of the justification process. However, the primeval joy of something new and shiny can be great. No need to rationalize the emotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 24, 2016 Share #133 Posted December 24, 2016 Does anyone seriously believe that his photographs will improve by a marginally smaller camera with a nicer EVF? Improved photographs with a nicer EVF? Probably not. An improved workflow and life? You bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 24, 2016 Share #134 Posted December 24, 2016 I did one project with my M that wouldn't have been possible for me without the EVF and I would have needed to use a different camera. Among other things it involved extreme close-ups of a potter working on a new process which I couldn't have made on my M without the EVF, unless I used a traditional Visoflex. I needed consistency between these near-macro shots and the rest of the series, so using the same one camera was Important. But the slowness of the EVF made it impossible to get some of the shots I wanted. Timing when working with a fast-moving subject in low light is crucially important of course, and even more so when critical moments are both unpredictable and unrepeatable. So having an EVF was a huge advantage to me and enabled me to make some photos Would otherwise have missed. Having a better EVF would certainly have improved the outcome though. So yes, whilst a better EVF wouldn't make me a better photographer, it would improve certain aspects of my photography, which is one of the things a new, improved camera ought to be able to do isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 24, 2016 Share #135 Posted December 24, 2016 Peter, you need the SL. (Ducks and runs for cover) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 24, 2016 Share #136 Posted December 24, 2016 Peter, you need the SL. (Ducks and runs for cover) Interesting idea. I hear it has a great EVF. I haven't heard much about its OVF though. I must look into it. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted December 24, 2016 Share #137 Posted December 24, 2016 Interesting idea. I hear it has a great EVF. I haven't heard much about its OVF though. I must look into it. :-) That's an accessory. You can mount it on top of your camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 24, 2016 Share #138 Posted December 24, 2016 That's an accessory. You can mount it on top of your camera. Next to the rangefinder? Marvellous! I must get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 24, 2016 Share #139 Posted December 24, 2016 Improved photographs with a nicer EVF? Probably not. An improved workflow and life? You bet. Not to mention the feel-good factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 24, 2016 Share #140 Posted December 24, 2016 Next to the rangefinder? Marvellous! I must get one. I'm sure this one will fit on the SL. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! With apologies to Red Dot. I'm sure they don't mind the plug Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! With apologies to Red Dot. I'm sure they don't mind the plug ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267577-sell-m-to-get-m10/?do=findComment&comment=3172716'>More sharing options...
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