Guest VVJ Posted December 16, 2016 Share #41 Posted December 16, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) All settings preserved and file numbering preserved. Thanks Leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 Hi Guest VVJ, Take a look here FW 2.2 published. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
MRJohn Posted December 16, 2016 Share #42 Posted December 16, 2016 I think we need to remember this is a point release not a major update. The Windows users who wanted LIS might think it a bigger update then the rest. That's four updates in 12 months. One major and three lesser. Not bad for Leica and far ahead of some companies. I know for a fact the FW 3 thread list has been seen by Leica. So we live in hope. Gordon p.s. Regarding the dark EVF and stray light. I think that might be something. I had exactly that, just once. I had a situation where the EVF seemed very dim until I managed to shade the thing properly. Normally my ape like head seems to form a good seal but occasionally it misses. Maybe what is needed is a rubber eyecup extension. Gordon Well, considering the FW 3 thread lists about 50+ suggestions, which the SL processor should be able to handle, I think this 2.2 firmware update glass is only 10% full. Good to hear they are aware of the full wishlist. - They have published an SL lens roadmap, why not publish a software (firmware) roadmap, the SL is as much hardware as software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted December 16, 2016 Share #43 Posted December 16, 2016 No need to get cheeky and there are quite a few people with less than stellar connections. It's not going away, either. Think mobile where both speed and limited data volumes are still issues. That is exactly what I meant. Cheeky maybe better than rude. And I see myself as deserving to voice an opinion Mr Moderator from Basil (sorry, I don't even have your name). I know -- if I don't like it, I can just leave. But without voicing an opinion we will be stuck in the same place and never move on. Have a good day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted December 16, 2016 Share #44 Posted December 16, 2016 The name's Philipp and you can see it under my posts if you allow the forum to show signatures. I also answer to "pop". Many friends call me exactly that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted December 16, 2016 Share #45 Posted December 16, 2016 The name's Philipp and you can see it under my posts if you allow the forum to show signatures. I also answer to "pop". Many friends call me exactly that. Thanks Pop or pop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted December 16, 2016 Share #46 Posted December 16, 2016 "pop" will do fine, but any combination will do, even camel case. Actually, you should be able to see that as well, on the left hand side in red letters in the grey bar just above my posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 17, 2016 Share #47 Posted December 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...it's already in the owner's area! New Top Features: • Added support for Leica Image Shuttle 3.5 (Windows) • Improved support for Leica Image Shuttle 3.5 (MAC) and for Adobe® Photoshop® Lightroom® Tethered Plug-In 1.1.0 (MAC) • Changed exp. limitation in combination with 6bit coded M-lenses Bug Fixes: • Fixed, missing data in EXIF in combination with lens adapters • Several minor bug fixes Finally got to doing the update just now. I haven't used the camera other than to snap a couple of test exposures to check the file numbering (just fine for me) ... But the immediate thing I notice is that, with an R lens fitted, the power-on startup time is significantly reduced: the camera is able to make an exposure almost instantaneously after I click on the power switch and hitting a control button operates almost instantaneously as well. I'll be shooting with it tomorrow morning and will see what else I notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario Arioldi Posted December 17, 2016 Share #48 Posted December 17, 2016 Finally got to doing the update just now. I haven't used the camera other than to snap a couple of test exposures to check the file numbering (just fine for me) ... But the immediate thing I notice is that, with an R lens fitted, the power-on startup time is significantly reduced: the camera is able to make an exposure almost instantaneously after I click on the power switch and hitting a control button operates almost instantaneously as well. I'll be shooting with it tomorrow morning and will see what else I notice. I did notice the same, start-up is much faster now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted December 17, 2016 Share #49 Posted December 17, 2016 I did notice the same, start-up is much faster now. I'm seeing the same. I use mostly R lenses, so this was an issue. Startup time with an M lens on my "M to T" adapter is also short now, especially after a short time off. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydenc Posted December 18, 2016 Share #50 Posted December 18, 2016 The only problem I encounter with the EVF in bright light is that of contrast, where there is not enough dynamic range to keep the shadow areas from being basically blacked out while avoiding blowing the highlights. An OVF solves this but so could more options with the existing EVF. I have worked around this at times by shooting in Manual and changing the exposure compensation to brighten up the display without affecting the exposure. I assume you mean in Manual mode. Not sure if you were involved in another thread where we worked out that when exposure compensation is used to brighten the display, it also changes the mid point of the meter. So if you use your meter to help set your exposure, you need to set it to 1 stop under whatever you are over exposing by. Eg 1+ exposure comp Adjust settings so the meter reads -1 to get the right exposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydenc Posted December 18, 2016 Share #51 Posted December 18, 2016 Regarding the dark EVF and stray light. I think that might be something. I had exactly that, just once. I had a situation where the EVF seemed very dim until I managed to shade the thing properly. Normally my ape like head seems to form a good seal but occasionally it misses. Maybe what is needed is a rubber eyecup extension. Gordon After a few recent comments about the some people getting eye cups etc, I thought I would try today to block all stray light. It helped a little bit, but it is not the answer. My camera is nothing like an OVF as some others have commented. I am now thinking about sending my camera in for 'repair', even though the store I bought it from rejected it when I complained about it and tried to return the camera when I first got it... I might see if I can use something to capture the EVF brightness in comparison to ambient light to show others what I am seeing... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted December 18, 2016 Share #52 Posted December 18, 2016 I assume you mean in Manual mode. Not sure if you were involved in another thread where we worked out that when exposure compensation is used to brighten the display, it also changes the mid point of the meter. So if you use your meter to help set your exposure, you need to set it to 1 stop under whatever you are over exposing by. Eg 1+ exposure comp Adjust settings so the meter reads -1 to get the right exposure. Yes I've noticed it changes the meter as you said. I meter first, then use EC to help focus if shadows are too dark. The resulting image is based on the metering prior to setting focus. Spot metering sometimes helps as well as you can meter off the shadow area to set focus and then move the spot to preserve highlights. All workarounds at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted December 18, 2016 Share #53 Posted December 18, 2016 ... personally I think the problem is stray light from the surroundings causing sufficient pupil restriction and retinal bleaching to render the EVF too dark for them..... so it is natural human variability rather than an EVF issue. ... thighslapper, I think that you have hit on something. Way back in the 1980s, my wife and I went trekking in the Himalaya, to the base camp of Everest (actually, to the summit of Kala Patar, a shoulder of Pumori overlooking the base camp). My equipment then was a Contarex Super, with a full range of prime lenses - not exactly travelling light, but I was younger! That season was unusual due to a late monsoon, which left half a meter of snow on what normally should have been bare ground in the middle altitudes. This was highly atypical. Our "sardar" (the leader of the trek), who had summited Everest more than half a dozen times, came to me at the end of a day, asking what this strange rash on his cheeks was (I am a physician). It was typical sunburn! He was incredulous. "I've never had sunburn before, even while climbling Everest". I asked him: "What do you do at higher altitudes to protect yourself from the sun?" He responded: "I wear sunscreen, obviously". I responded: "Well, we are on the mountain, there is half a meter of snow on the ground, and you are not using sunscreen!" To make a long story short(er), the only way I could take photographs on the mountain without getting blinded was to: 1) - Close my eyes 2) - Lift my dark sunglasses (with side baffles) to my forehead 3) - Bring the viewfinder of my Contarex to my right eye 4) - Keeping my left eye closed and my right eye really close to the viewfinder, which had an eyecup 5) - Open my right eye, compose, meter, focus and shoot! Could this be what some SL shooters are complaining about? Retinal bleaching is real, and it takes seconds to recover from it. Ask any skier who ever came into a darker restaurant or lodge from a sunny day on the snow! Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted December 21, 2016 Share #54 Posted December 21, 2016 All settings preserved and file numbering preserved. Thanks Leica! Dear JorisV, That is a welcomed change. However, when I format the SD card in camera the image "number" is kept, but the folder number is incremented as before. The result is now that if the last image is L1050714, after format the next image will be L1060715. If Leica insists on incrementing the folder number on each format of the SD card, I think I would prefer the image number in the new folder to start at 0001, giving then L1060001 instead of L1060715. Best regards Trond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 21, 2016 Share #55 Posted December 21, 2016 I wonder if right eye/left eye shooter could be part of the EVF issue. I am normally a left eye shooter (nose smears on LCD) but when for various reasons I have tried right eye shooting with the SL, I too have noticed that the EVF does not seem bright enough. Now even though I am right handed, I changed to a left master eye, after severe facial injuries/fractured orbits of my eyes in a racing car accident many years ago. I notice that if I right eye shoot, my left eye is normally open, which could lead to shutting of the iris (and maybe retinal bleaching) of both eyes and the assumption that the EVF is insufficiently bright. When I left eye shoot, my right eye is normally closed and I don't get optical sensitivity reduction on the left eye. The easy way to check which is your master eye, is to shut one eye and point at a small high contrast object, with your finger at arms length, open your other eye and if the apparent location of the object changes noticeably, the eye you originally had shut is your master eye. Check by doing it the other way round, when the apparent location of the object should stay pretty much the same. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted December 21, 2016 Share #56 Posted December 21, 2016 You could try an eye patch to make sure your left eye is closed - could give you a pugnacious expression (a la Moshe Dayan) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Back to fw 2.2: It looks much more interesting than first expected. But does it contain fixes for the Summilux-SL ? Regarding AF speed ? I don't think so. Can anybody confirm ? And is the 24-90 now improved at 90mm ? Any confirmation ? Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Back to fw 2.2: It looks much more interesting than first expected. But does it contain fixes for the Summilux-SL ? Regarding AF speed ? I don't think so. Can anybody confirm ? And is the 24-90 now improved at 90mm ? Any confirmation ? ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267326-fw-22-published/?do=findComment&comment=3171261'>More sharing options...
profus Posted December 22, 2016 Share #57 Posted December 22, 2016 LOVE the SL but really need an option for the focus point to remain centered when using SL lenses as the joystick is too slow/fussy. Don't really get this? If you use a middle focus point it remains centered or...? Personally I almost never use middle focus point and am so happy the position of the focus point is not reset to it after every shot. What would that be useful for? Like it is the case with magnification when using M lenses - which is in my opinion very annoying. Option to keep magnification at the last used position when using M lenses would be my first fw3 wish... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 22, 2016 Share #58 Posted December 22, 2016 Don't really get this? If you use a middle focus point it remains centered or...? Personally I almost never use middle focus point and am so happy the position of the focus point is not reset to it after every shot. What would that be useful for? Like it is the case with magnification when using M lenses - which is in my opinion very annoying. Option to keep magnification at the last used position when using M lenses would be my first fw3 wish... Bear in mind that not everyone shoots the same way you do! I would also like the focus point (and spot meter exposure point) to default to the centre sometimes. Its behaviour should be your choice, though, so everyone gets what they want. An example of how I worked recently with the 24-90SL while shooting ballroom dance couples is: - wide-angle shot (24mm) with focus set on the face of one of a couple in the the top left corner; followed by: - distant shot (90mm) of a couple with the focus point in the middle. When you're working quickly with fast-changing scenes, it is an advantage to be able to choose when the focus point resets and when it doesn't. My preference would be to assign a "focus point reset" action to one of the buttons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
profus Posted December 22, 2016 Share #59 Posted December 22, 2016 Bear in mind that not everyone shoots the same way you do! I would also like the focus point (and spot meter exposure point) to default to the centre sometimes. Its behaviour should be your choice, though, so everyone gets what they want. My preference would be to assign a "focus point reset" action to one of the buttons. Yes, I am fully aware of this, even though it is bit strange And that was the reason I asked the question, to understand in what situation one would like to use it that way No problems if that is introduced as on option, so everybody gets it as they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted December 22, 2016 Share #60 Posted December 22, 2016 So, has anyone found any hidden gems in this new firmware? In my case, things that appear to be quirks may or may not have been present in earlier versions. For example, I cannot set then blinkies / zebra mode. I'm sure that at one stage I was able to replay my images and have burn / underexposure highlighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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