jaapv Posted November 17, 2016 Share #21 Posted November 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) My understanding is that digital Ms do not lock auto ISO in manual mode. Am I wrong? Mine is in NJ so I can't try it. John Depends on the setting in menu. You can set the 240 to revert to the last chosen ISO on going to manual (which can cause you to have a problem if you set it to something unusual previously which you forgot about) and then you can choose and fix ISO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnwolf Posted November 17, 2016 Share #22 Posted November 17, 2016 Depends on the setting in menu. You can set the 240 to revert to the last chosen ISO on going to manual (which can cause you to have a problem if you set it to something unusual previously which you forgot about) and then you can choose and fix ISO. Thanks, Jaap. I'm an MM1 user, so I reckon I'm in the wrong forum. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 17, 2016 Share #23 Posted November 17, 2016 On the MM1 in manual you can set the ISO any way you want. Just checked on mine as it is my daily bag camera at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted November 17, 2016 Share #24 Posted November 17, 2016 On the MM1 in manual you can set the ISO any way you want. Just checked on mine as it is my daily bag camera at the moment Sorry, OT just once more: so Auto ISO locks on half-press in manual mode? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted November 17, 2016 Share #25 Posted November 17, 2016 With my M-240 a half press locks shutter speed and Auto ISO when in Aperture Priority mode and Auto-ISO when in manual mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted November 17, 2016 Share #26 Posted November 17, 2016 I used to use center weight in the M9 but I have found advanced to be a major improvement in both landscapes and action shots... I cannot explain it but it is a fact... Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 17, 2016 Share #27 Posted November 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry, OT just once more: so Auto ISO locks on half-press in manual mode? No. When you set ISO by the ISO button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted November 17, 2016 Share #28 Posted November 17, 2016 No. When you set ISO by the ISO button. The M-240 locks any auto exposure function (shutter speed & Auto ISO) with a half press. The M9 Monochrom is different. Half press will lock both shutterspeed and Auto ISO if in Aperture Priority mode, but does nothing if in Manual mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted November 17, 2016 Share #29 Posted November 17, 2016 M262 as well. The M-240 locks any auto exposure function (shutter speed & Auto ISO) with a half press. M262 does too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 18, 2016 Share #30 Posted November 18, 2016 The M-240 locks any auto exposure function (shutter speed & Auto ISO) with a half press. The M9 Monochrom is different. Half press will lock both shutterspeed and Auto ISO if in Aperture Priority mode, but does nothing if in Manual mode. Yes, but which ISO will be locked is a bit of a gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted November 18, 2016 Share #31 Posted November 18, 2016 The M-240 locks any auto exposure function (shutter speed & Auto ISO) with a half press. The M9 Monochrom is different. Half press will lock both shutterspeed and Auto ISO if in Aperture Priority mode, but does nothing if in Manual mode. Thank you. That's my experience with the MM1 and what I wanted confirmed. Though I wish it worked like the M-240. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted November 21, 2016 Share #32 Posted November 21, 2016 If you are outdoors in good light, why even rely on the meter? At ISO 200, 1/250 at f11 or any other reciprocal equivalent will get the job done, adding one-half to one-stop as needed depending on shade conditions. That's how I use my M262 or M9 all the time. I go back to the meter when necessary, but try it and you'll be surprised how often you can get by without it and be all the better for it. If you mean the sunny 16 rule, then you are one stop too bright here. This would apply in bright, sunny condition. If you turn around and have a subject against the light you might easily need 4 stops more light. I feel this system was OK 50 years ago, when we did not have lightmeters in-camera. heiko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted November 21, 2016 Share #33 Posted November 21, 2016 When shooting action (weddings) I meter the sun lit parts and the shadows. By this I know what exposure I need for faces in sunlight and for faces in shadow. Very often it is like this: ISO 100, 2.0, Sun 1/4000. In shadow 1/250. No science here, just experience. heiko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 23, 2016 Share #34 Posted November 23, 2016 Just find a proper exposure for your average scene, meter you palm which is average, and figure the correction required. It will be .5 to 1.0 stops more exposure for the scene than your palm. Always keep your palm in same light as subject. Use an incident meter. Meter off a whi Bal card in same light as subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted November 23, 2016 Share #35 Posted November 23, 2016 If you mean the sunny 16 rule, then you are one stop too bright here. This would apply in bright, sunny condition. If you turn around and have a subject against the light you might easily need 4 stops more light. I feel this system was OK 50 years ago, when we did not have lightmeters in-camera. heiko Actually, I meant what I said. That's what works with the M262. F16 is a little too underexposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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