jaapv Posted December 9, 2016 Share #281 Posted December 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) In the end we will all catch up with the speed of an M camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted December 9, 2016 Share #282 Posted December 9, 2016 [...] Just make the M10 normally responsive is all I would be asking. [...] +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted December 9, 2016 Share #283 Posted December 9, 2016 A google translation of the latest Leica Academy Schedule tells the following about the M (I suppose its the upcoming one): "For decades Leica M has perfected the use of the latest measuring technology, combined with the innovative possibilities of modern digital technology. This workshop with the Leica M is therefore a very special celebration for the established Leica community of the M fans and those who want to become one. The M is equipped with a 24-megapixel high-resolution CMOS sensor, which together with its high-performance processor and the legendary M lenses achieve outstanding image results. With live view, video and new additional focusing methods, it is also the M for all who want to do without anything modern camera technology offers. Whatever appeals you with rangefinder photography." Looks very much like the same sensor as for the SL or Q and Maestro II. The only remaining question is what is the meaning of "new additional focusing methods"? Regards Steve PS: edited the last sentence of the google translation which did not mentioned "Messsucher"= rangefinder I would guess those new additional focusing methods to be built-in EVF or perhaps even Fuji-stye hybrid OVF/EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 9, 2016 Share #284 Posted December 9, 2016 My guess will be a new IVF like what's in my SL meaning it will be a smaller SL without the German style hand grip. If that's the case then it will catch my attention as the focusing will be 10 times faster than the out dated Rangefiddler and more user friendly for us old farts :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted December 9, 2016 Share #285 Posted December 9, 2016 I would guess those new additional focusing methods to be built-in EVF or perhaps even Fuji-stye hybrid OVF/EVF. I would guess the "new" refers to since M9, hence the M 240's EVF and focus peaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 9, 2016 Share #286 Posted December 9, 2016 M from Messucher, Manual focusing, Manual exposing, Manual holding your hands still. Please stay away from M if you want automation in everything. The M concept is already compromised with Live View in the M240. Please stop here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray1684 Posted December 9, 2016 Share #287 Posted December 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yep, responsiveness and speed would be a bonus; especially writing images to the card. Wouldn't mind higher iso but not too fussed, pretty happy with what I've been dealt with so far on the 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 9, 2016 Share #288 Posted December 9, 2016 I would guess those new additional focusing methods to be built-in EVF or perhaps even Fuji-stye hybrid OVF/EVF. I would guess they are referring to the present M. Additional focusing methods would refer to focus peaking and magnification in LV and EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted December 9, 2016 Share #289 Posted December 9, 2016 All the present and past digital M are sluggish, to say the least. Just make the M10 normally responsive is all I would be asking. Anything up to now has been a JOKE. Hmm - one of the reasons why I stick with the M for reportage / documentary is that I've not found anything that does the job better. Once you've learned how to use it it's an amazingly fast tool - particularly with lenses between 21 and 35. There's no AF hunt, no problem with locking metering. All you have to do in most situations is to focus, frame and shoot. Metering is something that you've sorted out for the scene anyway. If you have to add the metering step, its still quicker for me to shoot fast changing scenes with an M than it is with a 5D3 with wide to medium FL lenses. From 50mm upwards, an SLR starts to have an advantage for quick action - though for portraiture, contextual, and landscape work the M is also remarkably capable. What I want from the M10 is the same ease of use as the M-240 + a small improvement in low/high ISO and a much better external EVF. OBVIOUSLY - for fast moving sports / performance with lenses above 50mm other tools will do a better job. The reality for me is that I'd prefer to use a DSLR and AF lenses for this purpose. Financially, the SL system just doesn't have enough advantages IMHO when I compare it to the Canon 5D3 or 5D4 + the outstandingly good Canon glass that is available for a fraction of the price of the Leica SL offering. I'm looking forward to January 18 (if that's the date...) - and I'm NOT hoping for a hybrid finder as I don't want to compromise the excellence of the optical RF which is and has always been THE reason for using the Leica M system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted December 9, 2016 Share #290 Posted December 9, 2016 I agree with you Chris, what you have to say. But I'm punting on last quarter of next year. I think Leica will try and make some money with their very successful 240 series...and keep the run going. It's very hard to estimate what Leica will do...sometimes they throw a "curve ball". And there is only so much extra the M series can do...forget the hybrid finder...forget the sensor cleaner or image stabilisation...it will stay the same with some weight loss and improved ISO, "better" EV..is what I reckon. They will always stay true to the roots of M, and take just about any legacy lens. all best... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M28 Posted December 9, 2016 Share #291 Posted December 9, 2016 What is happening January 18? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 9, 2016 Share #292 Posted December 9, 2016 Speculation about the name...... Perhaps the reason the name M10 has surfaced rather than another M typ ### is that the latter style was introduced to allow for more frequent model changes. And perhaps reverting to M10 is a sign that the digital M has reached a plateau from which it will change little, like the M7. So perhaps the M10 will be kept as the entirely satisfactory and capable camera that it should be (as an evolution of the M240), with only minor changes in future years. This allows Leica to put its R&D into a new, M-sized digital body based on the L mount, taking TL, SL and possibly new small (ML?) lenses. Our speculations have so many degrees of freedom nowadays, before Leica spoils it all by launching an actual product! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted December 9, 2016 Share #293 Posted December 9, 2016 With three FF platforms in-house (M, Q and SL), I would guess that sharing components will become increasingly important in order to keep the development, making and assembly costs down. At the same time, the platforms need to maintain their identity and uniqueness. It will therefore be interesting to see what the M10 will look like; this is the first new M after the SL was released one year ago. I belong to the group of very satisfied SL users, but I certainly see the role and place of the M - given that the two platforms are sufficiently diverse. Regarding the MP race - Leica will eventually step up here (albeit years after Sony & Co, which is fine with me) - the question is whether the M, Q or SL will be the first with 36+ Mp. I do not expect the new M to be the platform with higher Mp-count. Improved ISO and dynamic range would be good. And an much improved EVF, of course. We will know by Jan 18... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M28 Posted December 9, 2016 Share #294 Posted December 9, 2016 Is there a release JAN 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted December 9, 2016 Share #295 Posted December 9, 2016 No. Just go to work, it's a Wednesday. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 9, 2016 Share #296 Posted December 9, 2016 I see 2 lines M8 > M9 > M10 M240 >>I shall not buy the M10 anyway I'll go certainly on January 19th to Wetzlar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 9, 2016 Share #297 Posted December 9, 2016 I am convinced that Leica will use M10 to spite all the posters that referred to the M240 as "M10" All their posts and blogs will be messed up in Google Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted December 9, 2016 Share #298 Posted December 9, 2016 It's only one line: M8 > M9 > M10 > M11 The M240 was just a prototype. After some trial and error (M246, M262), there comes finally the production version: M10 The prototype of the M11 will be released a year later. Most likely under the name M300,36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblutter Posted December 9, 2016 Share #299 Posted December 9, 2016 Do you use any kind of demobiliser for your subjects, tranquilliser darts, chloroforme, etc? Currently not shooting people, with darts or cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted December 9, 2016 Share #300 Posted December 9, 2016 80mp for super high resolution 20mp pixel quadrupling for sensitivities 400 and above The best of both worlds Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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