jaapv Posted October 17, 2016 Share #141 Posted October 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) What a difference a week makes! Been out and about with the M 262 just shooting DNG images this weekend I have not started working on them with Lightroom yet but have just checked the files using Fast Stone Image Viewer and these are so much better than my first attempts last weekend I am getting used to the metering as well and I am quite delighted at the quality. One slight niggle has surfaced though some dust spots have started to appear already! At present the dust check indicator shows several blotches, which correspond to the blotches I am seeing. Now when I bought the camera - it came straight out of the box, the lens was attached and have not taken it off. I have looked around on the web and have found a video on YouTube by Steve Huff showing him cleaning an M9 with one of those rocket type bulb blowers. I have one of these blowers - its it safe to use on an M262? Or should I get something else? My only previous encounter with sensor dust was on my X1. A few months after buying it I had to send it back for a sensor clean after a blob appeared, but being fixed lens not something one could do oneself. John It is wholly irrelevant whether the dust detector shows dust, the question is if it affects your images significantly. A rather useless feature. Using a rocket blower is usually enough. Hold the camera with the bayonet facing downwards; dust has less chance of resettling on the sensor that way. Under no circumstances use compressed air. Not only may it spit nearly impossible to remove residue onto your sensor, the high power of the blast can insert dust under the filters, making for a costly repair. Using your mouth is anther no-no - it is impossible to avoid drops of saliva. There is an elaborate post on a consistent cleaning workflow in the M FAQ at the top of this subforum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jhluxton Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share #142 Posted October 17, 2016 It is wholly irrelevant whether the dust detector shows dust, the question is if it affects your images significantly. A rather useless feature. Using a rocket blower is usually enough. Hold the camera with the bayonet facing downwards; dust has less chance of resettling on the sensor that way. Under no circumstances use compressed air. Not only may it spit nearly impossible to remove residue onto your sensor, the high power of the blast can insert dust under the filters, making for a costly repair. Using your mouth is anther no-no - it is impossible to avoid drops of saliva. There is an elaborate post on a consistent cleaning workflow in the M FAQ at the top of this subforum. At present there are only three blotches - though two are in the top third and appear in the sky. The other in the bottom third is usually obscured in fact I didn't know it was there until I had activated the dust indicator. Lightroom healing tool appears to be a quick and way of sorting so far. Thanks for the warning but I wouldn't have thought of using compressed air as I have used cans of this cleaning computer components and have seen how the propellant can come out in liquid form. I will go and find the FAQ John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikiphoto Posted October 17, 2016 Share #143 Posted October 17, 2016 At present there are only three blotches - though two are in the top third and appear in the sky. The other in the bottom third is usually obscured in fact I didn't know it was there until I had activated the dust indicator. Lightroom healing tool appears to be a quick and way of sorting so far. Thanks for the warning but I wouldn't have thought of using compressed air as I have used cans of this cleaning computer components and have seen how the propellant can come out in liquid form. I will go and find the FAQ John When using the Lightroom spot removal tool there is a useful feature available. When spot removal is selected there appears a tick box below the photo labelled 'Visualise Spots'. When selected this turns the picture to a high contrast negative which makes even smaller spots more visible. I wish they would add such a feature to Capture One! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share #144 Posted October 17, 2016 When using the Lightroom spot removal tool there is a useful feature available. When spot removal is selected there appears a tick box below the photo labelled 'Visualise Spots'. When selected this turns the picture to a high contrast negative which makes even smaller spots more visible. I wish they would add such a feature to Capture One! Thanks - I noticed this late last night will have a proper look at it last night when I work on some more images. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #145 Posted October 20, 2016 I have now completed working on the first batch of DNG images taken last weekend. Only minor adjustments have produced some really impressive results. Must say I am hooked and wonder why I didn't make the change DNG ages ago. My concerns about disk space were probably partly my excuse for not wanting to try out another piece of software as well. In fact I was so delighted with the results I ended up deciding to buy a 75mm Summarit when I went to LeicaStore Manchester yesterday. The trip had really been intended to be for the purchase of just a body protector but feeling rather pleased with the results as I headed along the M62 I brought forward the plans to acquire another lens! One of the chaps there also sorted out the dust when I mentioned it so have not had to do this. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted October 20, 2016 Share #146 Posted October 20, 2016 ......Only minor adjustments have produced some really impressive results. Must say I am hooked and wonder why I didn't make the change DNG ages ago. ....... There you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted October 20, 2016 Share #147 Posted October 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have now completed working on the first batch of DNG images taken last weekend. Only minor adjustments have produced some really impressive results. May we see some ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #148 Posted October 20, 2016 May we see some ? Yes very soon will post a link as soon as I have finished captioning and moved them to a public area on my SmugMug site. Within next 24hrs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #149 Posted October 20, 2016 The first 62 images in this gallery http://www.jhluxton.com/Railways-and-Tramways/Welsh-Narrow-Gauge/Ffestiniog-Railway-2016/ dated October 14 to 16 were taken with the M262. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 20, 2016 Share #150 Posted October 20, 2016 These look great, John. You're a fast learner. I bet you're happy with that 262 now! Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #151 Posted October 20, 2016 These look great, John. You're a fast learner. I bet you're happy with that 262 now! Pete Thanks! Happy - oh yes! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted October 20, 2016 Share #152 Posted October 20, 2016 The first 62 images in this gallery http://www.jhluxton.com/Railways-and-Tramways/Welsh-Narrow-Gauge/Ffestiniog-Railway-2016/ dated October 14 to 16 were taken with the M262. John Excellent. It is bigly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted October 20, 2016 Share #153 Posted October 20, 2016 Looks like you've figured out DNG and Lightroom nicely. Your a fast learner! Great Train too!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted October 20, 2016 Share #154 Posted October 20, 2016 Some excellent images there, John. I've been deliberating on an M262, and this has been a very useful thread. Thanks! J Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #155 Posted October 21, 2016 Some excellent images there, John. I've been deliberating on an M262, and this has been a very useful thread. Thanks! J I wish there had been a similar thread when I was deliberating a few weeks ago. I have been a member of l-camera-forums for some years and read here and elsewhere on the web of people's use of the current M models - where I must admit the issues of esposure and use of JPGs had not really come to the fore. Perhaps it was because I was so behind the times when it came to DNG - that such issues had long been debated and considered and I had missed the boat? Anyway I have learnt a lot the people on this M section of this forum have been so helpful and encouraging. Glad my original post has also generated a thread that has been useful for you too. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 21, 2016 Share #156 Posted October 21, 2016 TBH, it has been discussed here quite a few times over the years. But one of the nice things about this forum is that it lacks a "use the search button" mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probus5002 Posted October 22, 2016 Share #157 Posted October 22, 2016 Just wanted to say what an excellent thread this has been. I am also a relatively new owner of a Leica M and I learnt a great deal following the excellent advice given so freely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share #158 Posted November 7, 2016 Well it is one month since I started this thread in a state of angst however as I indicated almost two weeks ago things have been going fine since I switched to DNG / Lightroom. Finally just to sign off on this thread I must comment that I am now wondering if I need all of my other three Leicas - the V-Lux3, X1 and X1 Vario? I went off on holiday two weeks ago for a trip to Monmouthshire, Devon and Cornwall and took the other three cameras along "just in case". As things turned out all three remained in my other camera bag and I used was the M 262 35mm Summicron and 75mm Summarit. Whilst I will need the V-Lux 3 for long range shots of ships I am now questioning if I need the X1 and in particular the X-Vario. The X-V given its size with hand grip being about the same as the M now appears somewhat superfluous! Perhaps the X1 might be useful for small camera occasions? I won't act in haste but the way things are going I can see it probably being traded for a 28mm lens for the M come the spring (that quirky retro designed Summaron 28 looks nice!) It has been an interesting journey to photo heaven! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 8, 2016 Share #159 Posted November 8, 2016 The X1 is a great camera to slip into your pocket when running out of the house. The M is a bit lumpy to be a carry-anywhere camera. The X Vario is practical for family parties with kids running around. Autofocus cameras are also the superior choice to hand to the waiter to take a shot of the two of you In other words: don't sell, you will miss them later on, when you are settled in with the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted November 8, 2016 Share #160 Posted November 8, 2016 Keep 'em there more useful than you think and you wont get as much for them as you want.....At least when I sell stuff I never get near its worth. Your collection will come in handy as jaapv points out I still have: an X2, it goes in my pocket when I don't feel like caring the M, granted I don't use it much but really $500 or 600?.....if I'm lucky. and a DLux 6, its my wife's camera and a great loaner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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