JonPB Posted April 28, 2016 Share #301 Posted April 28, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I, for one, love how Leica makes cameras that extremely picky and demanding people want. Not saying that anyone here, of course, except myself, is in that category. This camera represents the niche of a niche of a niche of a niche -- I'm thinking dedicated camera, optical finder, manual focus, screen-less -- when other companies are struggling to find a way forward in only the first niche of "dedicated camera." The fact that the M-D exists at all is interesting both photographically and economically. I don't see myself buying it, but I love that Leica was able to release it and went ahead and did just that. Cheers, Jon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joshua Lowe Posted April 28, 2016 Share #302 Posted April 28, 2016 Love the concept. Don't like the price for what you get. If it had a sensor comparable to the Q or SL I'd probably trade my M246 toward one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted April 28, 2016 Share #303 Posted April 28, 2016 A near miss, Leica, but it's darn close. The concept of the MD, CCD sensor under the hood, weight, shutter and electronics of M262 and size of MP (film) would be the one on my wish list. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted April 28, 2016 Share #304 Posted April 28, 2016 I believe it is close to the size of a film Mp, certainly the M9, slimmed down from the CMOS M's -- willing to be corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted April 28, 2016 Share #305 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Why does it cost more than the same camera with a screen? Edited April 28, 2016 by digitalfx 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFoto Posted April 28, 2016 Share #306 Posted April 28, 2016 Is that not obvious to you? Apparently not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 28, 2016 Share #307 Posted April 28, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I believe it is close to the size of a film Mp, certainly the M9, slimmed down from the CMOS M's -- willing to be corrected. Well, given that the digital Ms are all the same size.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted April 28, 2016 Share #308 Posted April 28, 2016 I think the post M9 digitals are larger, certainly felt that way in my hand Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 28, 2016 Share #309 Posted April 28, 2016 However, a measuring tape will prove you wrong. The placebo effect of an Internet myth... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted April 28, 2016 Share #310 Posted April 28, 2016 I wonder how you can tell the status of the battery. The finder window, I presume? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted April 28, 2016 Share #311 Posted April 28, 2016 The later m240 is larger, this has been well covered and yes the m6,7 is smaller then the m9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 28, 2016 Share #312 Posted April 28, 2016 The later m240 is larger, this has been well covered and yes the m6,7 is smaller then the m9 The M(typ 240) is 0.6 mm thicker and exactly the same dimensions for the rest compared to the M9.It has been explained a zillion times and still people persist... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted April 28, 2016 Share #313 Posted April 28, 2016 How do one set the white balance? Would it be possible to convert this MD to a digital monochrom ? Sendt fra min SM-G930F med Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 28, 2016 Share #314 Posted April 28, 2016 I'm assuming, apart from the thumb wheel, the MD has the same firmware as my M60. The 'movie' button displays battery percentage and SD card capacity on subsequent pushes. White balance is set to Auto. No Jpegs, so it just sets the starting point for your DNG adjustment in post processing. No manual lens selection, so your uncoded lenses will have no in camera correction. LED frame lines, in traditional pairs. No Auto ISO setting. Body same size as the M(240). Battery same as M(240), but battery life longer (I would expect). Not sure if the MD also has the 2GB buffer of the M-P and M60. Small red LED write light bottom right at the back. Anything else? In addition to the thumb wheel the MD gains frameline preview lever, a threaded shutter release and lugs - applying the principle that less costs more, that will be why the MD costs less than the M60 ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 28, 2016 Share #315 Posted April 28, 2016 I believe it is close to the size of a film Mp, certainly the M9, slimmed down from the CMOS M's -- willing to be corrected. I don't believe that, looking at the tech-specs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 28, 2016 Share #316 Posted April 28, 2016 I'm assuming, apart from the thumb wheel, the MD has the same firmware as my M60. The 'movie' button displays battery percentage and SD card capacity on subsequent pushes. White balance is set to Auto. No Jpegs, so it just sets the starting point for your DNG adjustment in post processing. No manual lens selection, so your uncoded lenses will have no in camera correction. LED frame lines, in traditional pairs. No Auto ISO setting. Body same size as the M(240). Battery same as M(240), but battery life longer (I would expect). Not sure if the MD also has the 2GB buffer of the M-P and M60. Small red LED write light bottom right at the back. Anything else? In addition to the thumb wheel the MD gains frameline preview lever, a threaded shutter release and lugs - applying the principle that less costs more, that will be why the MD costs less than the M60 ... It has 1 Gb buffer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFoto Posted April 28, 2016 Share #317 Posted April 28, 2016 However, a measuring tape will prove you wrong. The placebo effect of an Internet myth... The current M 240 is 5mm thicker than the M8/M9 body, which is why the old Leica accessories don't fit (half case, grip, etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 28, 2016 Share #318 Posted April 28, 2016 It has 1 Gb buffer. The extra 1GB cost me rather a lot then ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted April 28, 2016 Share #319 Posted April 28, 2016 Why does it cost more than the same camera with a screen? The price of a product is made up of several parts. 1) BOM (Bill of Materials) -- the list of actual items that make the product and their individual costs. The lack of a screen will reduce the cost. The fancy ISO selection switch will increase the cost. Etc. 2) Manufacturing. The recurring cost to produce the product. 3) NRE (Non-Recurring Engineering). This is the R&D specific to this particular product. New circuit boards had to be designed, prototyped, and tested. New software had to be written. Manufacturing tooling and fixtures may need to be designed and prototyped. Etc. The NRE goes into the cost -- how much depends upon how many units Leica expects to sell. It can be a *significant* part of the price if the expected sales are low. 4) Overhead. That portion of the power, heat, gas, water, rent or mortgage payments, etc. that are assigned to the product. 5) Profit. Leica wants to make some money 6) Mark-up. Leica dealers want to make some money, too. The BOM differences are probably small. The NRE is likely high on a per-unit basis because of low sales volume. Manufacturing may be high, too, due to the low volume. It may not be worth while to spend time and money automating part of the manufacturing process. The screen/no-screen cost is likely a very small part of the overall cost structure of the product. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 28, 2016 Share #320 Posted April 28, 2016 The current M 240 is 5mm thicker than the M8/M9 body, which is why the old Leica accessories don't fit (half case, grip, etc)one word: thumbrest. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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