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My thoughts are to take the M6 plus a digital with you, Neil. You want to enjoy the trip, which won't happen if you're getting frustrated with winders not winding and meters not metering. Having said that, you can then challenge yourself to work primarily in film, perhaps just taking a back-up digital shot of anything spectacular (like me driving past :rolleyes: ).

Don't worry about films being destroyed at airport scanners, unless you are using very high ISO films. ISO 400 is fine.

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I'm going back to the UK (Scotland) in June/July for two weeks to stay with my daughter and her BF, then we are heading to Switzerland for two weeks photo trip. My question is do you think is to early in my film career to only take my M6 and a few lenses for this trip?? Initially I was going to take my Leica S and the Q, but since I have found film, I'm thinking just take a film camera.........what do you guys think??

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I'm going back to the UK (Scotland) in June/July for two weeks to stay with my daughter and her BF, then we are heading to Switzerland for two weeks photo trip. My question is do you think is to early in my film career to only take my M6 and a few lenses for this trip?? Initially I was going to take my Leica S and the Q, but since I have found film, I'm thinking just take a film camera.........what do you guys think??

. Currently in departure lounge at EMA with about £300 worth of Velvia and Acros in my bag, the X100T is in there along with the Hasselblad. Take your M6 and film!
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. Currently in departure lounge at EMA with about £300 worth of Velvia and Acros in my bag, the X100T is in there along with the Hasselblad. Take your M6 and film!

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Any issue with airport scanners, would it be better to put it in the hold??

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No!!!! The hand  luggage scanners are reasonably film-safe. Your hold luggage gets blasted by X-rays if it gets scanned.

There is absolutely no problem if you have film up to 1000 ASA, You can request film over 1000 to be hand-scanned. Just search the forum for threads on the subject.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259211-recent-experience-film-hand-inspection-request-at-airports/

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259219-can-airport-scanner-ruin-the-film-that-bad-or-is-it-the-dodgy-film/

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No!!!! The hand  luggage scanners are reasonably film-safe. Your hold luggage gets blasted by X-rays if it gets scanned.

There is absolutely no problem if you have film up to 1000 ASA, You can request film over 1000 to be hand-scanned. Just search the forum for threads on the subject.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259211-recent-experience-film-hand-inspection-request-at-airports/

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259219-can-airport-scanner-ruin-the-film-that-bad-or-is-it-the-dodgy-film/

I've ordered some ISO3200 so I guess I need to put that in my pocket, or like you say ask them to not put it through

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Putting in your pocket won't help, it will show up on a body scan or pat-down, and then you will be 100% certain required to put it through a scanning machine. Present the film in a friendly way and request a hand check. Mostly it will be granted, if not, well,even 3200 will usually survive a few scans. Don't go for lead bags and such nonsense. It will only result in the luggage being stopped in the scanner and rescanned a few more exposures to try and see through the lead bag and  a lengthy hand check afterwards.

 

The best strategy is to buy , use and develop fast film at your destination.

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Wack, bash...boom!

"Doctor it hurts when I keep hitting my head on the wall.."

You will find 3200 completely unacceptable.

 

Neil, frankly mate, your pages show a great photographer...with your digital camera.  I think your animal stuff is refreshingly different...you have so much to offer.

It's all about composition and the moment anyway.  You do it very well. Film is not going to help here in the least.

 

Do think about it.  We know you can afford anything, and are looking for new experiences...but I just can't see it happening with film.

Process your digital stuff a different way, perhaps.

 

You might like to put your energies into the latest full frame electronica from Leica...for example.

 

I'm just seeing the (short term) future, that's all.

 

all the best, and I mean no harm, Dave S

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I'm going back to the UK (Scotland) in June/July for two weeks to stay with my daughter and her BF, then we are heading to Switzerland for two weeks photo trip. My question is do you think is to early in my film career to only take my M6 and a few lenses for this trip?? Initially I was going to take my Leica S and the Q, but since I have found film, I'm thinking just take a film camera.........what do you guys think??

 

Take the Q as well. It's light enough.

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Wack, bash...boom!

"Doctor it hurts when I keep hitting my head on the wall.."

You will find 3200 completely unacceptable.

 

Neil, frankly mate, your pages show a great photographer...with your digital camera.  I think your animal stuff is refreshingly different...you have so much to offer.

It's all about composition and the moment anyway.  You do it very well. Film is not going to help here in the least.

 

Do think about it.  We know you can afford anything, and are looking for new experiences...but I just can't see it happening with film.

Process your digital stuff a different way, perhaps.

 

You might like to put your energies into the latest full frame electronica from Leica...for example.

 

I'm just seeing the (short term) future, that's all.

 

all the best, and I mean no harm, Dave S

So people shouldn't try things they haven't experienced? Even if Neil ends up going back to 100% digital, he will learn a lot from this experience (as he has done already).

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Wack, bash...boom!

"Doctor it hurts when I keep hitting my head on the wall.."

You will find 3200 completely unacceptable.

 

Neil, frankly mate, your pages show a great photographer...with your digital camera.  I think your animal stuff is refreshingly different...you have so much to offer.

It's all about composition and the moment anyway.  You do it very well. Film is not going to help here in the least.

 

Do think about it.  We know you can afford anything, and are looking for new experiences...but I just can't see it happening with film.

Process your digital stuff a different way, perhaps.

 

You might like to put your energies into the latest full frame electronica from Leica...for example.

 

I'm just seeing the (short term) future, that's all.

 

all the best, and I mean no harm, Dave S

Dave 6 months ago I would have agreed 100% with you............today I am only agreeing 95%. I like this film lark, I like the look of my pictures that I have taken with film (lets say they have grown on me, but seriously I like shooting film, I like the feel of the M6 in my hand with the cocking thingie and the ISO dial on the back, I like all of that. I can go out and shoot my Nikon D4s with a 600mm bazooka on the end but it just ain't the same as shoot with a M. I have my Leica S-006 that I have now decided to take with me. I'm going to shoot everything with the M6 and back some of that stuff up with the Leica S as and when I feel the need.

Either way the M6 is a keeper   

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Tried to look in your (B&H) cart Neil, it was "empty".B

Buy a little to get you there, then buy the rest in the UK, or get some sent from Europe (I would suggest MacoDirect) to a place where you can receive it in the UK.

Shoot it, and possibly get it processed even. That way the airport side of things is reduced/eliminated.

 

Having said all that I have had two separate trips into Europe from here, and back, with film, and nary an issue. Eoin is the same, he's a very frequent flier.

Gary

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Take the Q as well. It's light enough.

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That's a given, the Q is great for a grab shot here and there and also nice for discreet under the table shot...............not that I take many of them.

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Tried to look in your (B&H) cart Neil, it was "empty".B

Buy a little to get you there, then buy the rest in the UK, or get some sent from Europe (I would suggest MacoDirect) to a place where you can receive it in the UK.

Shoot it, and possibly get it processed even. That way the airport side of things is reduced/eliminated.

 

Having said all that I have had two separate trips into Europe from here, and back, with film, and nary an issue. Eoin is the same, he's a very frequent flier.

Gary

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I never had problems with fogged films, neither in Egypt, Spain, Oman, Italy or Germany. I put them in my luggage and that's it.

Not a single problem with ISO 100 slide-film or ISO 400 B&W.

For scanning I would prefer Kodak Portra- Films, as they have a wide exposure tolerance and deliver very good results with fine grain.

You can easily adjust the (good) scans in highlights, shadows and color rendition the way you like.

So get Tmax 400 and Portra 400, and you're done. The Delta 3200 does not have native ISO 3200, it could be pushed upt to 3200, but has 1600 in real world, in my opinion.

You could push a Tmax 400 to 1600 with good results, 800 with very little loss of quality.

My standard is Tmax 400 in Kodak D76. Always working fine.

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