Go Figure Posted March 13, 2016 Share #1 Posted March 13, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) why these useless/convoluted shutter speed dials with "1/2 speed in between" click stops ? The shutter speed dial has become a ratchet wheel. _____________________________________________________________ when I started shooting Leica M I first learned which direction to focus the lens then which direction to stop down the lens then which direction to go up and down the shutter speed dial ALL WITHOUT LOOKING ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 Hi Go Figure, Take a look here the idiocy of 33 available shutter speed dial positions for M. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
AlanG Posted March 13, 2016 Share #2 Posted March 13, 2016 Yeah they really should have it click in 1/3rd stops by now. ;-) Perhaps you'd like to consider that a lot has changed in cameras over the years. Especially the way many people want to use them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 13, 2016 Share #3 Posted March 13, 2016 why these useless/convoluted shutter speed dials with "1/2 speed in between" click stops ? The shutter speed dial has become a ratchet wheel. Which Leica does that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 14, 2016 Share #4 Posted March 14, 2016 Which Leica does that? Well the digital Leica's have half stops. I suppose it's because it's possible to do it accurately with electronic shutters, and that exposure is more critical for digital imaging. It also means that if you want a set aperture, the best optically or the widest, there is another option to setting the correct exposure. So that's three reasons I thought of in ten seconds, so why couldn't the OP take a bit longer to think before posting? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted March 14, 2016 Share #5 Posted March 14, 2016 I think the op was bothered more by the clicks than being able to set the speed to intermediate values. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 14, 2016 Share #6 Posted March 14, 2016 The next M will have a touchscreen where you can input whatever shutter speed you want, why should you be limited to half stops? Want to shoot at 1/148th? You got it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted March 14, 2016 Share #7 Posted March 14, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello Mark, Welcome to the Forum. Many mechanical "M" film cameras as well as the mechanical Leicaflexes have had variable shutters going back to the 1900's. With the above mentioned variable shutter cameras: James's 1/148th of a second, just above, was already an available everyday occurrence back in the last Century.* * There are a small number of "gaps" where some intermediate speeds are not usable. The current cameras may have a larger number of specific "click" positions between whole stop speed settings. This may be to facilitate electrical contact between the shutter speed wheel & the circuits. This does not necessarily mean that these more recent cameras have more available intermediate positions than some of their predecessors. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted March 14, 2016 Share #8 Posted March 14, 2016 1/2 stop shutter speeds seem no more idiotic than 1/2 stop aperture settings on the lenses. JMHO... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 14, 2016 Share #9 Posted March 14, 2016 The myriad ISO settings available on digital Ms, despite having only one sensor, must really drive the OP nuts. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Figure Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted March 15, 2016 ... maybe that's why Alex shoots NX1 these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted March 15, 2016 Share #11 Posted March 15, 2016 Who the fnck is Alex? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Figure Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted March 15, 2016 1/2 stop shutter speeds seem no more idiotic than 1/2 stop aperture settings on the lenses. JMHO... Quite right, but one exposure compensation adjustment point proved sufficient for 50+ years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieg Posted May 10, 2016 Share #13 Posted May 10, 2016 why these useless/convoluted shutter speed dials with "1/2 speed in between" click stops ? The shutter speed dial has become a ratchet wheel. _____________________________________________________________ when I started shooting Leica M I first learned which direction to focus the lens then which direction to stop down the lens then which direction to go up and down the shutter speed dial ALL WITHOUT LOOKING ! 1/2 stop shutter speeds seem no more idiotic than 1/2 stop aperture settings on the lenses. JMHO... Absolutely Mr Danger! With one's eye to the viewfinder, moving 4 clicks on the lens aperture now equals 4 clicks on the shutter wheel! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 11, 2016 Share #14 Posted May 11, 2016 Absolutely Mr Danger! With one's eye to the viewfinder, moving 4 clicks on the lens aperture now equals 4 clicks on the shutter wheel! Beauty of Leica lenses. Makes 12 clicks on ZM ones... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 11, 2016 Share #15 Posted May 11, 2016 This thread makes me think of the saying 'the Devil makes work for idle hands'. If the shutter speed dial of what is still a simple camera causes so many problems just buy a polishing cloth and leave photography to somebody else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted May 11, 2016 Share #16 Posted May 11, 2016 I remain to be convinced that a half stop difference in exposure is visible in the final print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 11, 2016 Share #17 Posted May 11, 2016 Hello Pebbles, Your observation just above in Post #16 is interesting because the reason DIN numbers are a 3 number increase being equal to a 1 F stop increase (ISO100/21DIN - ISO200/24DIN - ISO400/27DIN). Is: Using standard B&W negative development techniques: 1/3 of a stop of difference in exposure is the least amount of exposure difference that can be seen as different in a B&W negative when it is being looked at by most people. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 12, 2016 Share #18 Posted May 12, 2016 I remain to be convinced that a half stop difference in exposure is visible in the final print. Half a stop difference shouldn't be evident in the final print because the final print shouldn't be the plain vanilla image that comes out of the camera. Any photographer who dares label themselves with the word should do some work with the image before it becomes 'final'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 12, 2016 Share #19 Posted May 12, 2016 So no instant photography for serious photographers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted May 12, 2016 Share #20 Posted May 12, 2016 I'm safe. I just take pictures Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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