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My 90mm Elmar-C.

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4 hours ago, mirekti said:

How can you tell the difference between CLE and CL versions?

I have no experience with the M-Rokkor 90/4 for Minolta CL (pics), only the one for Minolta CLE and the Elmar-C 90/4. AFAIK the M-Rokkor 90/4 for Minolta CL is the same lens as the Elmar-C with 40.5 mm instead of Series 5.5 filters. It has the same sloping focus cam as the Elmar-C and if it behaves the same way as the latter, as i suspect it, it has the same kind of flare as the Tele-Elmarit "thin" 90/2.8 when strong light sources are just outside the frame, to a lesser extent though. In my experience with the Elmar-C, no lens hood can do anything against that but flare can be avoided by making some more shade with a hat or an umbrella or cupping the hand around the lens. Compared to the Elmar-C, the M-Rokkor for Minolta CLE has a normal focus cam, 40.5 mm filters and it draws pretty well the same way but it is almost immune from flare so it can give the feeling to be a bit more contrasty. Both lenses are nicely made otherwise and both can be recommended as the sloping cam of the Elmar-C has never been a problem for me when using it on Leica Ms let alone mirrorless cameras. 

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On 11/15/2015 at 6:46 PM, wilfredo said:

I previously owned a late version 90mm Emarit, which I found to be a great lens, but I hardly ever used it on my M8.  Now that I own a Leica Monochrom, I'm wishing I had not sold it.  I'm not feeling the desire to burn $1200. on a replacement Elmarit.  The slower Rokkor 90mm F4 seems to be a relatively cheap option.  Can anyone comment on this lens?  How good is it wide open?  When stopped down to F5.6, or F8, is it just as sharp as the Elmarit?  I've read that it has a slightly more pleasant bokeh.

 

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For anyone interested, I settled for a 90mm f/2.8 Konica M-Hexanon lens, and paid about $475. (in pristine condition).  I would say that the rendering is closer to a Zeiss lens rather than a Leica lens, a bit more contrasty than my former Elmarit, which works fine for me.  I'm a fan of Zeiss glass, along with my Leica glass, and Voightlander glass, no complaints. 

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On 7/5/2020 at 7:27 AM, mirekti said:

How can you tell the difference between CLE and CL versions? Thanks.

The early M-Rokkor 90mm f/4 was made in Wetzlar on the same assembly line as the Elmar-C 90mm f/4, to identical quality requirement in build and optical testing. It has the alternative bezel and a 40.5mm filter thread, and is engraved near the base on the bottom of the lens "Lens Made in Germany". 

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45 minutes ago, ramarren said:

The early M-Rokkor 90mm f/4 was made in Wetzlar on the same assembly line as the Elmar-C 90mm f/4, to identical quality requirement in build and optical testing. It has the alternative bezel and a 40.5mm filter thread, and is engraved near the base on the bottom of the lens "Lens Made in Germany". 

 

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Mine is Made in Germany one. Thanks for the clarification.

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I just bought one based on all of the information on this and other websites. It's the one that says made in Germany and it feels like to me what a Leica supposed to feel like. Seems to have a good rep and Dexter looks cute so it's a win/win. 90mm Rokkar 4.0.  iso 1250 1/11 of a sec at least that's what light room says. 

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The optical layout of the 90 Elmar-C is very similar to the current 90 Macro Elmar M. Erwin Puts noted that the Elmar-C seemed to be corrected for closer distances, as they expected the Leica CL to be more of a snapshot camera. I have been impressed with the results from my Elmar-C, but I've used it mainly on my old film CL. Leica has always had good 90mm lenses - perhaps a good FL for 24x36 coverage.

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Yeech! What was wrong with my eyes yesterday? Horrible cyan color casts on those two shots of the M-Rokkor 90mm. Too late to change the post, but here are better color-corrected versions of the photos... ;)

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One must have some standards ... LOL! 

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56 minutes ago, ramarren said:

Yeech! What was wrong with my eyes yesterday? Horrible cyan color casts on those two shots of the M-Rokkor 90mm. Too late to change the post, but here are better color-corrected versions of the photos... ;)

One must have some standards ... LOL! 

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Did you take those shots with M11? 😎🫣

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