james.liam Posted November 12, 2015 Share #1 Posted November 12, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Triplet lens, to be released in several mounts, including M. http://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.de/trimagon-f26-95-mm/ Are these re-labled Chinese creations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Hi james.liam, Take a look here Meyer Optik Görlitz Trimagon ƒ/2,6 95mm. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted November 12, 2015 Share #2 Posted November 12, 2015 Well. the site speaks of "made in Germany"... thanks for the link... I didn't know that someone had revived this old respectable brand... Wikipedia Germany (which I read with difficulty) quotes indeed a relation with a Chinese manufacturer, maybe with only the Trioplan from local factory... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 13, 2015 Share #3 Posted November 13, 2015 Anyaway (reading the announcement) available in Summer 2016... 1699 Euros which is not far from the price of a Summarit 90... .. ok , is a triplet design fro "soft" portraits... but softness is so easy to get in PP... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladik Posted November 15, 2015 Share #4 Posted November 15, 2015 Early-Bird-Preis: 1599€ (danach 1699€)! I wander how many they sell at this price. The same soft look is easily achievable in PP as others have pointed out or a soft filter or a smear of Vaseline if you want to get technical would achieve same look as this EUR 1699 creation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted November 17, 2015 With new Leica lenses selling at steep discounts whilst second-hand samples are at new all-time lows, these guys must be smoking leftovers from the Hasselblad party to think they can get these sort of prices. I wish them luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted November 23, 2015 Share #6 Posted November 23, 2015 The Wikipedia article about the reviving of the Meyer Görlitz brand though Globell is not exactly building confidence. I wouldn't pay 1600 EUR for a triplet of questionable origin when I can get a genuine wartime 85/2 CZJ LTM for that kind of money. Rebranding is the very worst thing in the industry that ever had been invented. Why even bother to bring something to market when you cannot put a name in pride on the thing but have to make it look fancier than it is? AAh wait, yes of course, because you can ask 5 times the asking price … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted November 24, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rebranding is the very worst thing in the industry that ever had been invented. Why even bother to bring something to market when you cannot put a name in pride on the thing but have to make it look fancier than it is? AAh wait, yes of course, because you can ask 5 times the asking price … Not completely fair as you see what Cosina has done with the fabled Voigtlander name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted November 24, 2015 Share #8 Posted November 24, 2015 Not completely fair as you see what Cosina has done with the fabled Voigtlander name. You confuse the meaning of the term "rebranding". Rebranding is NOT the revival of a brand name. Rebranding is indeed a technical term to describe the act of taken a product of brand A, removing all hints it has been manufactured for/by brand A and selling it as a product made for Brand B. The sole reason for the existence of Re-branding is to deceive a potential customer in paying more for a certain product as the implicated manufacturer (the "higher value" brand the product is disguised in) is perceived by the potential buyer as a high quality manufacturer - "you pay for the name". There are many reasons for acts of Re-branding. For example did Leica re-brand the electronic accessory viewfinder for the M240 (manufactured for/by Olympus originally) in order to be able to offer the product. Re-branding is also not to be confused with OEM manufacturing (Leica for example contracts Metz to manufacture the SF-58 flash (a modified/ customized version of an existing Metz flash unit). Rebranding comes in different levels - the one that is most questionable is the straight swap of labels without any modifications to the original product, coming together with a (usually) outrageous price hike of the product in order to ear a profit for the "middle men company". Cosina is not only (mainly) an OEM manufacturer but also a patent holder who develops and manufactures lenses under diverse brand names (for which they currently own the licenses). What happens here is NOT Re-branding. What I have a problem with the Meyer stunt is not the actual origin of the product (for what I care it makes no difference if manufactured in China, Kasachstan, USA or Monaco) but the issue that products are sold at these extremely high prices coming from originally very low priced items with not much more than slapping the hollowed out dead name of a once re-known brand on a product while sticking to (in Germany mandatory SOP) quality standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted November 24, 2015 Share #9 Posted November 24, 2015 funnily enough it is perfectly legal to 'revive' a dead trade mark. After a certain period without use any party can come along and trademark an old brand name (assuming it passes the various distinctiveness tests). as for these lenses I agree with Menos: absurd to purchase when you can buy a lovely vintage item that will do the same job and holds it's value better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 24, 2015 Share #10 Posted November 24, 2015 ....as for these lenses I agree with Menos: absurd to purchase when you can buy a lovely vintage item that will do the same job and holds it's value better. I agree... all the plot looks like a "tentative" engineered by some brilliant financier on yet-to-come products... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 24, 2015 Share #11 Posted November 24, 2015 Re-branding is also not to be confused with OEM manufacturing (Leica for example contracts Metz to manufacture the SF-58 flash (a modified/ customized version of an existing Metz flash unit). Well it used to. Sadly, I think Metz went bust and the new range of Leica flashes look to be 'rebadged' Nissin units. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted November 24, 2015 Share #12 Posted November 24, 2015 I believe Metz are still operating: See below. March 2015: Two investors were found. The company will be split in two. The TV business is taken over by the Chinese electronics manufacturer Skyworth as Metz Consumer Electronics GmbH, whereas the plastics technology and flash business were bought by the local Daum Group (Germany) to firm Metz mecatech GmbH. 298 of the employees will be taken over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 24, 2015 Share #13 Posted November 24, 2015 I think these links are more useful: http://www.metz-mecatech.de/de/unternehmen/presse/pressemitteilungen-unternehmen/2015/15-06-metz-mecatech-standort.html http://www.daum-electronic.de/en/daum.html The Wikipedia entry is empty. It was 146 from 169 employees, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted November 24, 2015 Share #14 Posted November 24, 2015 Thanks for that. It looks fairly hopeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 24, 2015 Share #15 Posted November 24, 2015 Indeed it does, Daum is a manufacturer of ergometers and hometrainers and such, so Metz was clearly bought as an expansion of the activities, and it is an owner-led firm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucisPictor Posted March 5, 2016 Share #16 Posted March 5, 2016 The Trimagon- and the Trioplan-Series are NOT relabelled Asia-lenses!The Figmentum and the Somnium are, well at least some kind of, because the far east lenses are taken apart, re-adjusted and put together with ciritcal parts replaced. The Trimgon and Trioplan lenses are built in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiggiGun Posted March 6, 2016 Share #17 Posted March 6, 2016 My Trioplan will be delivered tomorrow. Stay tuned. In few days the first test images will be online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiggiGun Posted March 9, 2016 Share #18 Posted March 9, 2016 Trioplan f2.8/100mm : die ersten Bilder | my Leica M experience https://siggigun.wordpress.com/2016/03/07/trioplan-f2-8100mm-die-ersten-bilder/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted March 9, 2016 Share #19 Posted March 9, 2016 interesting, let us see more images and your opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted March 11, 2016 Share #20 Posted March 11, 2016 Keine Messucherkopplung, Fokussierung über die Live-View-Funktion Priced at 1599€ ($1896 USD) with no RF focusing capability, their first production run may well be their last. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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