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New Leica M in September 2016? The speculations.


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The focusing for me is fine, my shots are in focus even at 1.4 (I wear glasses too), if I had a say in the new M, I'd like 2 more stops of dynamic range, ISO to 12500, a self cleaning sensor and perhaps an M6 sized body...and an EVF with a PC socket to trigger flash when on longer lenses..

 

What I have just wished for I suppose is more or less an SL in a different format

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Can you give some pointer or link to that patent? I recall a patent being discussed here, but it was about an all digital rangefinder, i.e a solid state device; a hybrid one would be quite a different thing.

I think he means a digital RF part wedded to an optical VF part, which fits in with the patents discussed here.

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As clear as i recall this request has not been made before the firmware update so when the latter was presented in July 2014 everybody was happy but memory may serve me wrong. The video button should be programmable so that it could be used to trigger focus magnification or anything else like other competent bodies but this is another story. 

 

I thought our comments were in response to jmahto's post regarding LV and video annoyances.....I was merely adding the latter to your comment concerning LV....the movie deletion option came with the same recent firmware release.

 

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Can you give some pointer or link to that patent? I recall a patent being discussed here, but it was about an all digital rangefinder, i.e a solid state device; a hybrid one would be quite a different thing.

I remember the diagram being on Leica Rumors some months ago. The diagram allowed the insertion of digital data in the place of the frame lines that are presented now. But there was also additional possibilities, but was unclear in the diagram.

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Except maybe shutter speed if you use automatic exposure i cannot think of any interesting information that should be displayed in the viewfinder.

Shutter speed displayed small and a little alarm dot if you run out of power, if your card is becoming full etc...

When you see the alarm, you can look at the screen behind the camera to learn what it is about.

The less information displayed and less distracting it is.

A last tiny dot that tels you you memorised shutter speed half pressing the release button, or maybe no dot but only freeze of the speed display and slight color change.

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What are the betting odds on this topic's total entries exceeding 100 pages? Most of it will be waffle so the bookmakers might favour a high contribution. Meaningful entries will probably take place in the final days before release from insiders.

Until then ... goodnight.

Some will be happy, some will be not, most will be meh! Will it sell? Of course!

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I always surprised that these threads never focus on what I feel is the number one problem with the M240 -the small buffer.  

 

I use the camera every day.  (My 365 Project with the M240 and M9 is here: https://tookapic.com/ricricard_hcnvuru) and I'm constantly hitting the buffer.  People act like the only people who need to take more than 2 frames on a scene are sports photographers.  Nonsense.  If you're doing street photography and you have only 1 or 2 seconds to capture a candid moment, the more images you can capture in that 2 seconds, the better chance you have of nailing a great shot.  If you're shooting 2 people talking, the more frames you can fire, the more likely you won't get awkward facial expressions.  If you're having a model flow in her posing sequences, you need to be able to take more than 7 frames in a few seconds to catch all the different poses and expressions she's doing.

 

The buffer is actually much worse one you pass ISO 1000. I've never heard of that in any camera.  The M240 shoots substantially slower at ISO 100 than it does at ISO 200.  It's absurd.

 

I can't imagine the shooting possibilities of a future M with a Q or SL type buffer.

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Well, that would save me the price of a new M... I cannot see the rationale of an LCD-less digital camera in actual use. Should switching off the LCD not suffice for me, out will come the M6...

 

I don't think it would rule out a proper M successor, with both cameras being produced in tandem. 'it would shut up the anti-video lobby :D

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Oh, I would love to see a better EVF... something which is really state of the art!

Besides this a backside illuminated CMOS which delivers images with good SNR up to 6400 ISO and a superquiet mode without vibrations for my special area (supermacro and micro)... but I am sure, one cannot get all, but wishing is permitted :-)

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I liked this comment from Leica rumor site.. "could D stand for dumbed-down?" :)

 

Now I am thinking... if it has state of the art built in EVF and (this is important part) if no LCD helps in making it slimmer then it is all win win except to RF purists. Many people are already happy with focusing M lenses on SL (going by chatter here) then it may be a welcome thing.

 

This could be a good alternative for people buying SL to shoot M and R MF lenses.

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Well, that would save me the price of a new M... I cannot see the rationale of an LCD-less digital camera in actual use. Should switching off the LCD not suffice for me, out will come the M6...

 

I don't think it would rule out a proper M successor, with both cameras being produced in tandem. 'it would shut up the anti-video lobby :D

 

If all the info+pic is available in "state of the art" built in EVF, hopefully, then why do we need LCD? This is how I use my Nex-6 (since my LCD is becoming crappy for some reason).

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