pgk Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1301 Posted August 31, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Question from customer to Leica: I want an M-less M camera. Answer from Leica to customer: We have already buildt several, called T, Q and SL. Well perhaps Leica should build a fully comprehensive new camera featuring a rangefinder, pentaprism with reflex mirror, live view and evf (with focus peaking) all built in - in M mount. In a lighter slimmer body than existing dRFs, of course. Adapters to use any lenses (Leica brothers with full compatibility) too using wireless data transmission. We would all be so much better photographers using such a sophisticated and versatile tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1302 Posted August 31, 2016 No room for an adapter there... prosophos-new-m-mount-ccd-camera.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1303 Posted August 31, 2016 Good to know ... it will be without me thenI still fail to understand what is wrong with th SL from your POV. Works perfectly with existing M lenses, has an excellent EVF and the system will expand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkonkkrete Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1304 Posted August 31, 2016 Perhaps its just me, there seems to be interest in the new whatever Leica brings out but none of the "mania" that anticipated the next new version only a few years back. I get the feeling there is no great overwhelming need to get the next new thing. It could be cameras have become like PCs, the time for holding existing versions has extended significantly, no longer to necessary to swap with each new version. The leaps are too small to matter? I think the issue is that in previous iterations, there were still some really obvious areas for improvement, e.g., going full frame with the M9 generation; then getting better ISO plus Live View and quieter operation with the M-240 generation. The improvements that I can imagine now are really only incremental: even better dynamic range, a truly impressive EVF system; lighter, smaller ... there just doesn't seem to be the pressing need. I have an M-D and really can't think of anything (except possibly showing only the frame lines for the currently attached lens) that I could really improve. It is already the ideal full frame rangefinder for me: I, not the camera, am the limit on the photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1305 Posted August 31, 2016 Well perhaps Leica should build a fully comprehensive new camera featuring a rangefinder, pentaprism with reflex mirror, live view and evf (with focus peaking) all built in - in M mount. In a lighter slimmer body than existing dRFs, of course. Adapters to use any lenses (Leica brothers with full compatibility) too using wireless data transmission. We would all be so much better photographers using such a sophisticated and versatile tool. I like your idea. Rangefinder single lens reflex mirrorless M camera. Shall we add autofocus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1306 Posted August 31, 2016 I still fail to understand what is wrong with th SL from your POV. Works perfectly with existing M lenses, has an excellent EVF and the system will expand. Because I cannot imagine Leica going a long way with an optical-only RF and the SL is very big , there is nearly no difference between a SL and a Canon 5D series Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1307 Posted August 31, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, I must say that with an M lens mounted I find the SL size acceptable, and I find it hard to compare the functional shaping of the SL to the Japanese organic (Some call it dropped turd ) DSLR styling. And as I recall your being in the M system on account of the lenses only, I would find it logical to stay with cameras that have been designed optimally with those lenses, i.e. the M and the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1308 Posted August 31, 2016 I like your idea. Rangefinder single lens reflex mirrorless M camera. Shall we add autofocus? Yeah but how are they going to retrofit little motors in all those M lenses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1309 Posted August 31, 2016 Yeah but how are they going to retrofit little motors in all those M lenses? Mini V-twin to match the integral rangefinder I'd suggest - solves the power problem too - couple of drops of petrol will keep it running for hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1310 Posted August 31, 2016 Yeah but how are they going to retrofit little motors in all those M lenses? There will be an external motor moving the photographer's head... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1311 Posted August 31, 2016 Yeah but how are they going to retrofit little motors in all those M lenses? It can possibly be finger-driven autofocus. Why should you let anyone focus for you when you can autofocus by yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1312 Posted August 31, 2016 It can possibly be autofocus by fingers. Why should you let anyone focus for you when you can autofocus by yourself? My head hurts now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1313 Posted August 31, 2016 My head hurts now. But not as much as it will if jaapv's suggestion is applied . I'd really like to see Leica building a 'concept' camera incorporating ALL the suggestions made here. That would be an interesting machine indeed with all sorts of possibilities (racing style fuel filler cap, nitro boost for super AF, auto-head-shift-system (AHSS - what an idea for marketing), user selectable MF/AF/RF/EVF/Reflex VF system - the list goes on. We have the technology .... but wait I seem to be getting a mite carried away (unlike the concept camera which might be to heavy to be). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1314 Posted August 31, 2016 I want M to be small and light enough to be used with selfie stick. I am so frustrated that I am not able to take selfie with my M while my youth is fading away..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1315 Posted August 31, 2016 It can possibly be finger-driven autofocus. Why should you let anyone focus for you when you can autofocus by yourself? Do you use computers or are you still doing everything with pen and paper ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1316 Posted August 31, 2016 Do you use computers or are you still doing everything with pen and paper ? "or"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1317 Posted August 31, 2016 I want M to be small and light enough to be used with selfie stick. I am so frustrated that I am not able to take selfie with my M while my youth is fading away..... Fading? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1318 Posted August 31, 2016 Fading? Will you prefer "maturing"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRJohn Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1319 Posted August 31, 2016 Well perhaps Leica should build a fully comprehensive new camera featuring a rangefinder, pentaprism with reflex mirror, live view and evf (with focus peaking) all built in - in M mount. In a lighter slimmer body than existing dRFs, of course. Adapters to use any lenses (Leica brothers with full compatibility) too using wireless data transmission. We would all be so much better photographers using such a sophisticated and versatile tool. Great stuff, perhaps add "wireless charging" from a powerbank, while it is in the favorite "which bag for the M" to the list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted August 31, 2016 Share #1320 Posted August 31, 2016 September has arrived in central Europe. Within an hour it will be here too. A few hours later it will be a new month in the Americas. Still no sign of the new M in September 2016 after 66 pages of complete speculative nonsense. What has anyone gained or learnt from this? I'm puzzled. However , at least we had some fun over languages for a page or two. Back to sleep now, Rip van Winkle, we'll wake you if something happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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