MRJohn Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1261 Posted August 29, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) You have to read his claim properly - 99% hit rate provided he tries hard. Not an unbelievable (if valueless) boast. A 99% hit rate could even include a few "slightly out of focus" (btw, a great book). Hit rate was not defined. - I once took a class with a photographer and he was saying that he deliberately shot for a month out of focus. There are great examples of out of focus images out there which one can call a "hit". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MRJohn Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1262 Posted August 29, 2016 This thread seems to drift a bit from what we get, i.e. "the speculation", to what we want or don't want. I think the want/don't want can only be reflected in the M 2018 at this point in time as the M 2016 (if there is one) must surely be in production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1263 Posted August 29, 2016 I really dont have that much more difficultly focusing with the longer lenses than the shorter ones, though I'll admit to taking more care in general. The focusing patch is the same size regardless of focal length. OTOH, regardless of focal length a lot depends on what you happen to be targeting. Shooting a chaotic or repeating pattern can be quite frustrating at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1264 Posted August 29, 2016 I am baffled. Why would anyone buy a camera which they can't focus properly? If you can't focus an M rangefinder properly you either have discriminatory eyesight problems and struggle to judge precise image coincidence (given the probably demographics of M users, this isn't unlikely), or you are shooting subjects which are not viable on a rangefinder. It really isn't rocket science. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1265 Posted August 29, 2016 This thread seems to drift a bit from what we get, i.e. "the speculation", to what we want or don't want. I think the want/don't want can only be reflected in the M 2018 at this point in time as the M 2016 (if there is one) must surely be in production. After 10 months and almost 1300 posts, it's a wonder it hasn't drifted into pie recipes. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRJohn Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1266 Posted August 29, 2016 After 10 months and almost 1300 posts, it's a wonder it hasn't drifted into pie recipes. Jeff A pie in the form of the M you desire? Well, it has been done before: http://blog.leica-camera.com/2011/07/04/a-birthday-party-fit-for-a-leica/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1267 Posted August 29, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Those rumours about a new CCD rangefinder camera this year, and the sketches of the camera with the curved body....HanDe Vision perhaps? All of the sketches have an "H" monograph on the camera strap and various other places the name looks the right length. They have introduced a line of 24, 35, 50, 90 rangefinder lenses over the last year. Maybe they are looking to bring out a crop-sensor body? Pure speculation on my part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1268 Posted August 29, 2016 A pie in the form of the M you desire? Well, it has been done before: http://blog.leica-camera.com/2011/07/04/a-birthday-party-fit-for-a-leica/ I guess some pie are square (ish). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1269 Posted August 29, 2016 Those rumours about a new CCD rangefinder camera this year, and the sketches of the camera with the curved body....HanDe Vision perhaps? All of the sketches have an "H" monograph on the camera strap and various other places the name looks the right length. They have introduced a line of 24, 35, 50, 90 rangefinder lenses over the last year. Maybe they are looking to bring out a crop-sensor body? Pure speculation on my part. Hehe yes unless it is another mirrorless Leica. If you mean the Prosophos pics the lens used looks like an M and there is no adapter ring so it could be a full frame camera. A compact SL perhaps? My crystal ball shows two new Leica cameras in 2016 but it is a Sony crystal ball so i cannot rely on it entirely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1270 Posted August 29, 2016 I am talking about wide open.... I don't know if it would be faster but it could be less accurate, especially wide open, so.... I have a 90/2 which I use on my M240. My hit rate with it is pretty good (improved when moving to M240 from M9). If I were to use an EVF, I would use three times more time to focus and the hit rate would not improve significantly. Focusing with a rangefinder is much faster than with EVF. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252591-new-leica-m-in-september-2016-the-speculations/?do=findComment&comment=3103671'>More sharing options...
mjh Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1271 Posted August 29, 2016 I think the want/don't want can only be reflected in the M 2018 at this point in time as the M 2016 (if there is one) must surely be in production. Yep. The design and features of the next M are already fixed and won’t change due to anything written in this thread – even when the next M won’t be introduced at this year’s photokina, but at a later date, be it in 2016 or 2017. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1272 Posted August 29, 2016 With declining eyesight, and frequently shooting in poorly lit velodromes, I find the EVF on the Typ 246 Monochrom to be a great enabler, and reasonably fast, if a bit cumbersome. i find the delay on shutter fire to be more of a concern in shooting moving objects. d029 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1273 Posted August 29, 2016 I am talking about wide open.... At this size it doesn't prove much...I am not saying that it's not possible to nail focus wide open with the rangefinder, but it's more prone to various variables Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1274 Posted August 29, 2016 you're a hard nail... At this size it doesn't prove much...I am not saying that it's not possible to nail focus wide open with the rangefinder, but it's more prone to various variables Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1275 Posted August 29, 2016 you're a hard nail... 75/1.4 @ 1.4 with OVF Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252591-new-leica-m-in-september-2016-the-speculations/?do=findComment&comment=3103709'>More sharing options...
adli Posted August 30, 2016 Share #1276 Posted August 30, 2016 I am sorry, but that can't be 1.4 at that distance. No way both eyes can be in focus when they are not parallell with the camera. The dof is way to thin at 1.4 om 75mm that close... 75/1.4 @ 1.4 with OVF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted August 30, 2016 Share #1277 Posted August 30, 2016 I am sorry, but that can't be 1.4 at that distance. No way both eyes can be in focus when they are not parallell with the camera. The dof is way to thin at 1.4 om 75mm that close...Yes is at 1.4, the image was slightly cropped Sent from my HUAWEI GRA-L09 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 30, 2016 Share #1278 Posted August 30, 2016 If you look carefully the near eye is more in focus than the far eye. It is hard to see, as the whole image is a bit soft, probably due to motion blur. Critical focus is probably on the nose bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted August 30, 2016 Share #1279 Posted August 30, 2016 If you look carefully the near eye is more in focus than the far eye. It is hard to see, as the whole image is a bit soft, probably due to motion blur. Critical focus is probably on the nose bridge.I don't see the face, where the focus is, to be soft Sent from my HUAWEI GRA-L09 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmuussoni Posted August 30, 2016 Share #1280 Posted August 30, 2016 I am baffled. Why would anyone buy a camera which they can't focus properly? If you can't focus an M rangefinder properly you either have discriminatory eyesight problems and struggle to judge precise image coincidence (given the probably demographics of M users, this isn't unlikely), or you are shooting subjects which are not viable on a rangefinder. It really isn't rocket science. You forgot the most likely option: camera (RF) is in need of calibration. This is why I hope some day we could perhaps see a well implemented digital rangefinder patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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