kuau Posted July 17, 2015 Share #1  Posted July 17, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I Just got my M-P today and was looking to add a 135mm to my kit. Has anyone done a direct comparisons between the two lens on a M240/M-P? I would be shooting the lens at F5.6-F11 mainly. Do I need to spend the extra money on the new APO or will the Tele-Elmar-M 135 mm F/4.0 do the job. Thanks  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Hi kuau, Take a look here Tele-Elmar-M 135 mm F/4.0 vs Apo-Telyt-M 135mm on M240. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted July 17, 2015 Share #2 Â Posted July 17, 2015 It has been discussed often - do a search. The Apo-Telyt is a superb but challenging lens. It really requires faultless technique to get the full potential. However, the Tele-Elmar is surprisingly close, and stopped down there is virtually no difference to be seen. Given the price difference.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuau Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share #3  Posted July 17, 2015 Jaap, Thanks I will do a few more searches. I understand both lenses stopped down a little and there is very little difference. Can you comment on the handling differences? I understand the APO is 20% lighter which is a good thing, yet I do have the Leica Grip installed on my M-P so I wonder if that would make a difference in handling the older Elmar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted July 17, 2015 Share #4  Posted July 17, 2015 I owned both, sold the APO because there just wasn't anything in the IQ to justify the difference in price. I've had both versions of the T-E, prefer the older one because it takes e39 filters like the rest of my travel lenses.  If light weight is your criteria and you'll be shooting stopped down, you can extend your choices to include the f/4 Elmar as well. Slightly longer than the others at nominally 135mm (it's a long-focus not a telephoto), but weighs in 10g lighter than the APO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted July 17, 2015 Share #5 Â Posted July 17, 2015 If you only shoot at 5.6 and up the differences are probably even smaller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dritz Posted July 17, 2015 Share #6 Â Posted July 17, 2015 If you fail to get the APO you will succeed at not being envy of your friends. Â Is that really the kind of relationship you want to foster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 17, 2015 Share #7  Posted July 17, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you fail to get the APO you will succeed at not being envy of your friends.  Is that really the kind of relationship you want to foster?  I gained so many friends, not having had any before, once I was seen in all the right places with my new 3.4/135 APO-Telyt-M.  ...and most importantly it is a great chick magnet . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 17, 2015 Share #8 Â Posted July 17, 2015 Having said that it produces spectacular images, but shooting at f3.4 can indeed be challenging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 17, 2015 Share #9  Posted July 17, 2015 Jaap, Thanks I will do a few more searches. I understand both lenses stopped down a little and there is very little difference. Can you comment on the handling differences? I understand the APO is 20% lighter which is a good thing, yet I do have the Leica Grip installed on my M-P so I wonder if that would make a difference in handling the older Elmar. The old Tele-Elmar has very good handling characteristics. I do not see any reason to prefer the Apo-Telyt in this respect.The last version is virtually identical in shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 19, 2015 Share #10 Â Posted July 19, 2015 Actually, I just moved from the APO back to the Tele-Elmar (skinny 39mm version), because the Telyt's lightness combined with its slightly longer length and larger front diameter made it more prone to visible shake - more lever arm hanging out in the breeze. About 1 stop's worth, which kinda mooted the Telyt's half-stop speed advantage and slightly better optics at/faster than f/5.6. Â At 5.6-11 (which is where Leica says the 135s should be used on digital - and they are right, for fast-moving situations - you need the DoF, unless you can spend 10 seconds fiddling with the focus), the optical differences are microscopic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted July 20, 2015 Share #11  Posted July 20, 2015 I owned both, sold the APO because there just wasn't anything in the IQ to justify the difference in price. I've had both versions of the T-E, prefer the older one because it takes e39 filters like the rest of my travel lenses.  If light weight is your criteria and you'll be shooting stopped down, you can extend your choices to include the f/4 Elmar as well. Slightly longer than the others at nominally 135mm (it's a long-focus not a telephoto), but weighs in 10g lighter than the APO. Me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted July 20, 2015 Share #12 Â Posted July 20, 2015 The older thin Tele Elmar has a removable head which can be used with the Bellows II for macro photography if this is of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreed2754 Posted July 21, 2015 Share #13 Â Posted July 21, 2015 Have both having bought APO in January. Â Owned Tele-Elmar for 15 years. Â Agree with all comments. Â Slightly prefer APO images and like less weight and six bit coding. Â If moolah big factor can't beat Tele, otherwise APO a wonderful lens and is my M long Tele so leaving 180 Flex lens home more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted July 21, 2015 Share #14 Â Posted July 21, 2015 I had my TE 6 bit coded and then sold my APO since I prefer a 46mm 135 versus the 49mm APO filter size. Â Also had my older 39mm 6 bit coded and I am set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2016 Share #15 Â Posted June 4, 2016 Having said that it produces spectacular images, but shooting at f3.4 can indeed be challenging. Â However on an SL, this lens is performing beautifully at 3.4. I am going to really like this lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2016 Share #16  Posted June 4, 2016 It has been discussed often - do a search. The Apo-Telyt is a superb but challenging lens. It really requires faultless technique to get the full potential.  I am interested have you tried this lens on an SL and does it require the same faultless technique to get the full potential? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted June 4, 2016 Share #17 Â Posted June 4, 2016 APO is a good thing if you use Deep Red filter and it is mandatory if you intend to use it with IR film in an analog-M. I own the old one but I bought the APO because of deep red filter; you can go right with aperture setting and obtain a perfectly in-focus image, The lens is not so hard to focus at 3.4 or 4 if the rangefinder of your camera is well adjusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 4, 2016 Share #18 Â Posted June 4, 2016 Hello Everybody, Â People having trouble focusing whether with the various F4's or with the current F3.4 might consider trying focusing with a properly calibrated M3. Â Best Regards, Â Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted June 5, 2016 Share #19 Â Posted June 5, 2016 Owned both, but much preferred the Tele-Elmar due to the versatility of the removable head which I often used via an adapter on my Nikon DSLR bodies. Both great lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 5, 2016 Share #20  Posted June 5, 2016 I am interested have you tried this lens on an SL and does it require the same faultless technique to get the full potential? No I have not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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