Paulus Posted February 10, 2015 Share #1 Posted February 10, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Since I discovered the in-camera M 240 black and white filters I like to shoot jpegs without processing them. Really love it! Of course I have a dng backup, but in Lightroom the jpegs just look good to me. These ones are without post processing: Rotterdam Snow - pauljoostenfotograaf Breda - pauljoostenfotograaf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Hi Paulus, Take a look here I really love the M 240 in-camera black & white filters!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
billo101 Posted February 10, 2015 Share #2 Posted February 10, 2015 Wow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 11, 2015 Share #3 Posted February 11, 2015 Hmm - the bridge has something to say for itself, but a lot of them look flat / underexposed? I'm happier with the results from BW conversion in LR or via SilverEfex. Good that you've got the RAWs to work with. Not convinced myself. Just my 2c... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 11, 2015 Share #4 Posted February 11, 2015 +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodluvan Posted February 11, 2015 Share #5 Posted February 11, 2015 Since I discovered the in-camera M 240 black and white filters what filters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted February 11, 2015 Share #6 Posted February 11, 2015 I'm guessing he meant jpeg output using the inbuilt filter processing? Never tried these myself but it looks neat. I have to admit though I have very limited knowledge in black and white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Almulla Posted February 11, 2015 Share #7 Posted February 11, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I also prefer Raw files with SilverEfex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 11, 2015 Share #8 Posted February 11, 2015 Actually the op said he did not do any postprocessing. I'm sure they could be improved. However, I would never confuse them with Monochrom shots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted February 11, 2015 Share #9 Posted February 11, 2015 I too don't shoot much in b&w, except portraits, sometimes. I do know what I like to see in b&w though, and what I seem to see a lot in those shots is blocking-up of the darker end of the spectrum (tree trunks, shrubs, whatever is in shadow). If shooting the M240 in jpeg b&w, how would using the in-camera filter simulation differ from putting a filter on the lens? Other than no filter-factor I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodluvan Posted February 11, 2015 Share #10 Posted February 11, 2015 I'm guessing he meant jpeg output using the inbuilt filter processing? omg so, the normal jpg bw presets available in all digital cameras? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted February 11, 2015 omg so, the normal jpg bw presets available in all digital cameras? I don't know if they are available in all digital camera's ( i don't believe my Nikon D3 has one ) . I meant the digital colour filters as described here; scroll to the end of the page please: leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Page 39 - "The Menu Settings of the Leica M240" These pictures are made in setting " red " without post processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodluvan Posted February 11, 2015 Share #12 Posted February 11, 2015 I don't know if they are available in all digital camera's ( i don't believe my Nikon D3 has one ) . I meant the digital colour filters as described here; scroll to the end of the page please: leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Page 39 - "The Menu Settings of the Leica M240" These pictures are made in setting " red " without post processing. yes, that's the turn of a knob or push on a slider in photoshop or any generic image editing program, preferably using the raw file I [..] mentioned that so many Lecia M Monochrom users like to use color filters in front of their lenses. I shared an idea with him that they might look into making electronic color filters. Simply profiles that would tweak the cameras into adjusting the overall image as if there was a red filter or green or yellow filter in front of the lens. Same technology as when you adjust the white balance. and this guy is supposed to know a thing or two about cameras? the MM doesn't have a Bayer filter to discern different colours hence it can't "tweak" the result into looking as if colour filters were used once it has left the sensor. actual filters need to be used, just like when using real b/w film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted February 12, 2015 Share #13 Posted February 12, 2015 Paul, Interesting experiments, one picture triggers me with a question: the CS sign seems sharp on the left [CEN] and out of focus on the center/right, the focus plane is on the ladies, clear on the original photo What would the reason be? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/240937-i-really-love-the-m-240-in-camera-black-white-filters/?do=findComment&comment=2763562'>More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted February 12, 2015 Paul, Interesting experiments, one picture triggers me with a question: the CS sign seems sharp on the left [CEN] and out of focus on the center/right, the focus plane is on the ladies, clear on the original photo What would the reason be? [ATTACH]484430[/ATTACH] Could it be that I'm not standing in a 90 degree angle with the station? otherwise, the canera is off, but that would be silly, because it's been in Wetzlar about 10 weeks ago. I'll measure it the next time I'm in Rotterdam. It's a pity I did not see this message earlier. I was there about 1,5 hour ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted February 13, 2015 Share #15 Posted February 13, 2015 I also prefer Raw files with SilverEfex. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Bedford Posted February 13, 2015 Share #16 Posted February 13, 2015 I shoot to DNG with black and white preview so I can get an idea while out and about, then use VSCO Ilford HP5+ on my files in Lightroom. Looks gooorgeous (in my opinion ). Matches the real film stock relatively well too I've found. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/240937-i-really-love-the-m-240-in-camera-black-white-filters/?do=findComment&comment=2763808'>More sharing options...
indergaard Posted February 13, 2015 Share #17 Posted February 13, 2015 I usually shoot DNG + Jpeg Basic in 6 mp with the default black and white setting applied. This creates minimal B&W jpeg's that enables me quickly to determine if I prefer a capture in B&W or not. These jpeg's are always deleted after import though, and I never use them for anything. When using LiveView and the EVF I also prefer B&W preview with green focus peaking as this is the most precise and convenient way to use focus peaking based on my experience. I prefer the black and white tool in Capture One Pro 8.1.1. The grain tool is absolutely amazing as well, and makes Lightroom's grain tools and black and white conversions look really "digital" by comparison. I sometimes open files in SilverEfex, but very very rarely nowadays... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted February 22, 2015 Hmm - the bridge has something to say for itself, but a lot of them look flat / underexposed? I'm happier with the results from BW conversion in LR or via SilverEfex. Good that you've got the RAWs to work with. Not convinced myself. Just my 2c... I PP some other of the Rotterdam shots in LR. You think it's less " flatt " ? : Rotterdam 19 Febr. - pauljoostenfotograaf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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