A miller Posted February 6, 2015 Share #241 Posted February 6, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Andy -- the flash will fire but the flash and the shutter won't be in sync, so part of the shot will be black for the faster speeds and overexposed in part for the slower ones (this part I am not 100% sure on). Point is, with flash, the easy way to think of it is that the exposure time is really the time your flash is one not the time the shutter is open. they just need to be in sync and once in sync then you know the f/stop for the distance. Hi Steve - Thanks for the clear explanation. Best, Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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atufte Posted February 9, 2015 Share #242 Posted February 9, 2015 Some more M-A teasing... have a nice lunch everyone Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 17 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/236926-i-love-my-m-a/?do=findComment&comment=2761950'>More sharing options...
wattsy Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share #243 Posted February 9, 2015 Claxton seems to be a little underrated (or at least under-appreciated) nowadays – undeservedly so IMO. One of the great "west coast" photographers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakopz Posted October 31, 2015 Share #244 Posted October 31, 2015 I am a man of few words so I let this portrait do the talking Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/236926-i-love-my-m-a/?do=findComment&comment=2917626'>More sharing options...
sumolux Posted October 31, 2015 Share #245 Posted October 31, 2015 Silver on black isn't the look I would have chose, it's certainly not the historical choice. Not so sure about that historical choice.... My IID in black enamel with nickel controls from 1936 disagrees with you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumolux Posted October 31, 2015 Share #246 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) I love the idea behind the M-A and perhaps I will get to the point of buying one to accompany 2x M4's and 1x MP6.... But I have my (temporary) reservations about the M-A, mostly philosophical reasons without it being a big deal in the functioning of the camera. (Hey, for this kind of of money I am entitled to be a philosopher, right?) Remember the MP Classic? We have been down this path before at Leica. Now, please don't get me wrong; I almost bought a Classic back then. Until I found out that the guts of the light meter were just removed, and a brass plate (neatly) screwed in place over the battery cover opening, under the vulcanite. So, for the premium paid for a Classic, not even a clean new central body part was cut out in order to save a few dollars. This 'approach' to a high end product disturbed me, seen the premium being paid out. I fully accept that issues like this have no effect on the Classic's usability (or the M-A if it is built in that way) but for me the inferred 'perfection' means 'no compromises'. After that experience, I will only buy one once a repairman has gone over an M-A breakdown (that could mean a wait of 20+ years!) and posts pictures. IF the camera is a true, from the ground up, 21st century film camera iteration, then this would be fantastic. Sure the M-A will have some MP parts, etc. this is fine, tried and true, no issue. But if the body of the M-A is not in one unit, if there is just the same top-plate under the main cover with open holes where screws and fasteners were for the electronics, then I would feel cheated....however much I love the camera. Edited October 31, 2015 by sumolux 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted October 31, 2015 Share #247 Posted October 31, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) But if the body of the M-A is not in one unit, if there is just the same top-plate under the main cover with open holes where screws and fasteners were for the electronics, then I would feel cheated....however much I love the camera. So pay DAG or somebody to do a tear-down and video it. $5k is chump change for Kickstarter. That's how it's down in the modern world, or are we photographers still taking pictures of brick walls? s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumolux Posted October 31, 2015 Share #248 Posted October 31, 2015 I doubt anyone else would even bother about these purely subjective views of mine to even want to invest $5.00 in such a plan ! Anyway, however it is inside, in the end, makes no real difference as it functions perfectly and people are happy with it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted October 31, 2015 Share #249 Posted October 31, 2015 +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted October 31, 2015 Share #250 Posted October 31, 2015 So pay DAG or somebody to do a tear-down and video it. $5k is chump change for Kickstarter. That's how it's down in the modern world, or are we photographers still taking pictures of brick walls? s-a I kind of get where he's coming from, after all the M-A has a premium price and I would like to think Leica put in a bit of effort to make a proper casing rather than just patching up an MP body. I know it has zero affect on usability but theoretically you could also use your MP like an MA with no issues and less cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share #251 Posted October 31, 2015 but theoretically you could also use your MP like an MA with no issues and less cost. Not really, for many reasons that are frequently stated here (more complete framelines, shorter shutter release travel, etc.). I understand where sumolux is coming from questioning the 'authenticity' of the M-A as a distinct model but the M-A is what it is and I personally find it distinctly preferable to the MP. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted October 31, 2015 Share #252 Posted October 31, 2015 I doubt anyone else would even bother about these purely subjective views of mine to even want to invest $5.00 in such a plan ! Anyway, however it is inside, in the end, makes no real difference as it functions perfectly and people are happy with it. Sumolux, I wasn't trying to come off as being snarky, my apologies if it appeared that way. Your views are valid at least to you, and an even cursory look at threads in this forum will provide ample evidence that people here take the finer points of Leicas very seriously. s-a 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekindangen Posted October 31, 2015 Share #253 Posted October 31, 2015 Hi, It's nice to see enthusiasm with a "new" film camera :-) I probably have missed some posts, but I didn't come across problems with the new M-A. Somehow, after using the MP Classic, the M3 and several other mechanical Ms, I'd say the quality of the M-A is a bit substandard. Bear with me as my story is a bit long. Well, I bought a silver one in November last year. I was salivating as I opened the box and popped in the included Tri X immediately. A few frames and suddenly first problem occured: The film stopped advancing. Cocking the camera advanced the frame count but the film didnt wind (the two red dots on the film rewind knob didnt turn). The only way to fix it was to rewind the film and to reload it again and advanced it to the last frame where it failed the first time. Well, that wasn't really nice especially if I didn't know at what frame did it fail. Put in another rol of film (this time a Fuji Acros 100), shooting all the way to 20ish frame was a success but then I realized that the the red dots on the film rewind knob didnt turn. Took it to a local Leica Store and they said that perhaps I loaded the film incorrectly. They tried with their own film and the problem happened again. No fuzz, they gave me a brand new replacement only to find that the replacement had a lose film advance lever. This time they didnt replace the camera and said that the camera is within spec. Long story short, I took the camera to Leica Store in Ginza, Tokyo and they fixed it. I like the M-A so much, I bought the black chrome version too. Well, this one worked for awhile until one day the frame spacing became irregular. There would be frames one centimeter apart, two centimeters apart, and some with overlapping frames. I decided not to bring the problem to my local Leica Store. Instead, having had a good experience with Leica Store Tokyo, I shipped my camera there. Upon inspection they told me that everything looked good inside and should I experience similar problem I should send my camera to Germany. I'm going to pick it up next week and cross my finger that while I'm shooting this camera won't fail. The silver one is now working flawlessly and it's such a joy to be able to focus on taking photos instead of worrying about metering, batteries and chargers. As for the black one, I'd have to update its status here after a few rolls. My MPs meanwhile are working like they should from day one to today. I must've been very unlucky with the M-A or the quality of the M-A is not up to my expectation. Happy shooting! Long live films. Long live mechanical cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakham Posted November 1, 2015 Share #254 Posted November 1, 2015 Hello to everybody from czech republic. I am really considering to buy m-a, but on this forum I saw something about "film advance problem", is it real or just 1/10 users? I want buy analog Leica this week, so help me to decide to buy m-a or MP. after 2 months i will travel around south asia just with oné body of analog Leica. So I want to buy the most reliable a last time Leica camera! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumolux Posted November 3, 2015 Share #255 Posted November 3, 2015 Hello jakham Any camera from Leica - analogue or digital - can develop a problem. Cameras are complex. Mechanics can cause trouble, or electronics can cause trouble. 100 people can have no problem with a particular camera, and then 1 person can have several problems with the same model. That's life, fate or whatever. Therefore you only have to answer one question: do you want to photograph with - or without a light meter? If you prefer a built in meter: get an MP and be happy If you use a separate meter: buy the M-A and be happy Problem solved! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAK Posted November 3, 2015 Share #256 Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) I agree with Sumolux. For every Leica film camera model there's a thread somewhere about a "film advance problem". As far as I know, the MP and M-A are the same camera mechanically. I have an M-A and I'm very happy with it. Both the M-A and MP come with warranties that last for several years, so if a problem develops, it will be covered by Leica and/or the dealer. As I posted elsewhere, the decision for me was not to get the built-in light meter because I wanted the most basic photographic experience possible, like a pre-M5 Leica, but with a new camera. Good luck, and I hope you post photos from your trip! Edited November 3, 2015 by AAK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekindangen Posted November 4, 2015 Share #257 Posted November 4, 2015 Hi Jakham, I would recommend you go with the MP after my experiences above. But then you'd always be thinking about the M-A, like I did. It's not an easy choice :-) I'm currently travelling to Eastern Japan and here's my silver M-A with me during a stop at a noodle shop. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/236926-i-love-my-m-a/?do=findComment&comment=2920800'>More sharing options...
AAK Posted November 4, 2015 Share #258 Posted November 4, 2015 After that experience, I will only buy one once a repairman has gone over an M-A breakdown (that could mean a wait of 20+ years!) and posts pictures. IF the camera is a true, from the ground up, 21st century film camera iteration, then this would be fantastic. Sure the M-A will have some MP parts, etc. this is fine, tried and true, no issue. But if the body of the M-A is not in one unit, if there is just the same top-plate under the main cover with open holes where screws and fasteners were for the electronics, then I would feel cheated....however much I love the camera. Look at the notched shutter speed dial on the M-A, for coupling to a light meter. What a gorgeous thing that notch is, last seen in the M4-P, I believe. That notch alone is a work of art! It uncompromisingly cuts off the top of the "4". They could have placed the 4 a half-millimeter further around the dial to show the entire glyph and left room for the notch, but this is German engineering. The 4 must be placed at a specific point around the dial, and if the notch has to overlap the space, then that's how it must be. Sorry, 4. No compromises here that I can see! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share #259 Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) I rather like the notch and the truncated 4 too. I thought it was just me. last seen in the M4-P, I believe No, the MP Classic and LHSA MP3 special edition both have a notched shutter speed dial (the latter must be the only metered camera with a notch ). Edited November 4, 2015 by wattsy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted November 4, 2015 Share #260 Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Hello Everybody, Welcome to the Forum AAK. The reason the notch is off center between the 1/2 sec & 1/4 sec is that when the first M3's were built the original shutter sequence was from 1/2 sec to 1/5 sec. Then the spacing for the meter connection was in the center. When the shutter was replaced/recalibrated with the current sequence the connecting point for the add on meter had to be left where it was previously to allow seamless compatibility when using the add on meter with either version of M3 shutter. Best Regards, Michael Edited November 4, 2015 by Michael Geschlecht 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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