kanzlr Posted November 14, 2014 Share #61 Â Posted November 14, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have to say I like the way Thorsten deals with critique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Hi kanzlr, Take a look here New article on overgaard.dk - "Leica 75mm Summilux-M f/1.4". I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Paul J Posted November 14, 2014 Share #62 Â Posted November 14, 2014 Aw, Rick. It's cute when you get miffed. Â Slither, should have been sliver. There ya go, I've been wrong about that all my life. I guess I never put two and two together there. I don't really give a shit about being wrong. Come to mention, there is a funny irony in slither, but hey that's just my opinion and likely to be moderated (btw, thanks Jaap, as always very fair moderating in my last post). It's not so much what he says, most people can communicate fact without being offensive and it goes mostly unnoticed and/or appreciated, but it's how he goes about it...there is an appropriate way to "educate". And then there are those that even want to be educated, those that give a shit. It just comes off as posturing to me, particularly when it's done in a way to mock someone's way of learning a living as it was in this instance. It was a cheap shot. Â I'm also not so fussed about being politically correct (within reason of corse). A couple of people close to me are OCD, they joke about it because it's the best way to handle it. I've got my own issues which I joke about too. Everyone has a problem, somehow, and that means by your standard there would be nothing left to laugh about and that would be truly sad. To be sure, I just showed one of said persons your post and they responded with LOL. Are you OCD Rick? I'm sorry if you don't like to joke about it and it offended you. Â I spent years at uni being taught about things such as the "basic tenant of photography". I then spent the next decade trying to forget it. It's just a way for someone to make something sound more complicated than it is to sell you an education or bit of extra gear you don't need. It really doesn't mean that much to photography, which aint rocket science. It's like going to Medical School to learn how to walk properly. Â Anyway - As you were, soldier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted November 14, 2014 Share #63  Posted November 14, 2014 I have both, originally having bought the APO- Summicron but I just couldn't come at selling it after getting the Summilux. They are different lenses in that the Summicron is my standard 75 and the Summilux my 'art' lens, a bit like me the 1.0 Noctilux compared with the 50 Summilux ASPH. Funny you mention kidneys as I'm a kidney physician (nephrologist)!  OK, that is funny! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted November 14, 2014 Share #64  Posted November 14, 2014 I have both, originally having bought the APO- Summicron but I just couldn't come at selling it after getting the Summilux. They are different lenses in that the Summicron is my standard 75 and the Summilux my 'art' lens, a bit like me the 1.0 Noctilux compared with the 50 Summilux ASPH. Funny you mention kidneys as I'm a kidney physician (nephrologist)!  I agree.  Love my Summilux. Some of it's strengths, are at times it's weaknesses. It's split personality, (whoops, sorry Rick ) makes it a very valuable lens to me and one that I will never sell. It can be heavenly and poetic opened up and so bleedingly sharp stopped down, almost sharper than anything else I have owned. Tonally it's wonderful and it's colour rendition is something I find a very useful illustrative tool. But then it's tonal and colour characteristics are also something which have also been a weakness in some circumstances. I won't use it with my modern lenses if I need continuity in a story. I also find myself reaching for it over my 50 as a standard because I like the intimacy that a little extra compression can create. I shoot it a lot around 2-2.8 where it really gets operatic. Mid apertures can be tricky with some busy backgrounds because of the star shaped aperture it changes into (it goes back to round when stopped down). Not sure if I'd be interested in a corrected modern version, the Summicron complements it exceptionally well. If I was to own one it would be the Summilux.  If anyone is worried about the size, weight, shape, you might find like I did, that these issues disappear when you use the grip. Highly recommended. Also you get used to the hard-to-focus and frame aspects very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlinman Posted November 14, 2014 Share #65 Â Posted November 14, 2014 I like the article and I will buy a Summilux in the next days. I don't need all these info about perspective etc (I'm a physicist...) - but I need the inspiration to by such a lens. For me it looks like a perfect alternative between 50Lux and APO90 with a different rendering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted November 14, 2014 Share #66 Â Posted November 14, 2014 I have to say I like the way Thorsten deals with critique. Â Yes. There's graciousness in taking and graciousness in giving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted November 14, 2014 Share #67  Posted November 14, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) By popular demand I have updated the article on 75mm lenses with less factual errors, a few more provokations, a few new pictures, and a long requested overview of my articles in the bottom of the page.  There's one more thing I'd suggest. In your subject title you mentioned 75mm APO, but didn't include any photo made with it. I believe this lens deserves a bit better treatment ;-)  Thanks  PS I like the bottom of the page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted November 14, 2014 Share #68  Posted November 14, 2014 ... and I will buy a Summilux in the next days. See!? As expected, demand skyrockets ... glad I already have mine.   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! See the Tree How Big It's Grown, 2012 Leica M9, Summilux-M 75 mm; ISO 320/26°, 1/90 s, f/1.4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! See the Tree How Big It's Grown, 2012 Leica M9, Summilux-M 75 mm; ISO 320/26°, 1/90 s, f/1.4 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/236317-new-article-on-overgaarddk-leica-75mm-summilux-m-f14/?do=findComment&comment=2706439'>More sharing options...
pico Posted November 14, 2014 Share #69 Â Posted November 14, 2014 Could there be a language issue here? A mathematician friend at NASA told me about a major problem they had with code written the UK in which the programmer and his supervisors had a different definition for mass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyField Posted November 14, 2014 Share #70 Â Posted November 14, 2014 Could there be a language issue here? A mathematician friend at NASA told me about a major problem they had with code written the UK in which the programmer and his supervisors had a different definition for mass. Â Hummmmm. Lets keep religion out of this forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted November 15, 2014 Share #71 Â Posted November 15, 2014 ...I will buy a Summilux in the next days... Â Remember to give Thorsten a big kiss for pushing the price up 20% over the past week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 15, 2014 Share #72  Posted November 15, 2014 Remember to give Thorsten a big kiss for pushing the price up 20% over the past week  Well, he sure gave it a different perspective.  Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted November 15, 2014 Share #73 Â Posted November 15, 2014 Could there be a language issue here? A mathematician friend at NASA told me about a major problem they had with code written the UK in which the programmer and his supervisors had a different definition for mass. When two persons have different definitions for mass then it's no language problem but a problem with (at least) one person's education. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted November 15, 2014 Share #74 Â Posted November 15, 2014 Not in the case of non native speakers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted November 15, 2014 Share #75 Â Posted November 15, 2014 When two persons have different definitions for mass then it's no language problem but a problem with (at least) one person's education. Â Sorry Olaf ...... but you are talking here about a very messy and inconsistent language with many variations of definition of the same word .... and definitions that change with time, country and context. Â English is a minefield...... for even the best educated native speaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlinman Posted November 15, 2014 Share #76  Posted November 15, 2014 Remember to give Thorsten a big kiss for pushing the price up 20% over the past week   I'm to shy ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted November 15, 2014 Share #77 Â Posted November 15, 2014 Regarding language and usage: this thread is reminding me of a time in the early 70s when I was studying German. After a particularly hard one-on-one conversational session, I said to the teacher, "That was a long hour." She replied, "All the hours have sixty minutes." Â Not that this has anything to do with the 75mm Summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted November 15, 2014 Share #78 Â Posted November 15, 2014 Temperature: measured against felt. Height: measured against walking uphill/downhill. Camera: picturetaking device against rangefinder/dslr. etc. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted November 16, 2014 Share #79 Â Posted November 16, 2014 A possible answer could have been that it was an hour of sixty exceptionally long minutes. Â "Different definitions of mass" could simply refer to the implied units of measure, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted November 16, 2014 Share #80 Â Posted November 16, 2014 Good afternoon, now you have broken it down to questioned minutes. Â I think, this thread has reached its end. Somebody, I like his writings, wrote an article. Another member formulated critics, right ones in my opinion. Everything else one can forget. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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