CheshireCat Posted August 26, 2014 Share #121 Posted August 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) If the camera could return to the thickness of an M7, how good would that be? Interesting how people are still convinced the LCD is the culprit for the M being so fat... _DSC5127_zps434a79ca.jpg Photo by picrumors | Photobucket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Hi CheshireCat, Take a look here Rumor: Leica to Announce Digital Rangefinder Without an LCD Screen at Photokina. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted August 26, 2014 Share #122 Posted August 26, 2014 Basically the sensor and motherboard cannot be much thicker than a film and pressure plate. The rest must be LCD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted August 26, 2014 Share #123 Posted August 26, 2014 Interesting how people are still convinced the LCD is the culprit for the M being so fat... _DSC5127_zps434a79ca.jpg Photo by picrumors | Photobucket What is that picture supposed to demonstrate? Look as I might, I can not see any kind of hint as to the reason for the M's girth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted August 26, 2014 Share #124 Posted August 26, 2014 What is that picture supposed to demonstrate? I suppose it demonstrates that a digital camera with a flange distance of 18.0 mm doesn’t need to be much deeper than a film-based camera with a flange distance of 27.8 mm. <yawn> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted August 26, 2014 Share #125 Posted August 26, 2014 The NEX-7, for instance, is a bit deeper than the M, measured from flange to display. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2599264-post37.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted August 26, 2014 Share #126 Posted August 26, 2014 Well, coming back to the original rumour, it is of course quite possible to visualise a camera with just a battery display and frame counter. The rest can be done through Bluetooth on a smartphone.The real question is: will anybody (Leica) have the courage to build it and would there be enough people buying it? I might be tempted... I'm sorry Jaap, to me that sounds like crap. I mean such a camera. I don't have the option when shooting film, but when I take my M240 with me I regularly switch iso. And what if my phone ran out of juice? Or what if I forgot to take my phone with me? Stuck with iso 200 for the day? With 64GB cards costing next to nothing I really don't care about the frame counter. It's impossible for me to fill that card within a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted August 26, 2014 Share #127 Posted August 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Notice on the A7 about 2/3 of the body thickness is behind the focal plane index marked on the top. On a film M body the FP mark is very near the back of the body. So for comparison it should by the thickness of an A7 plus an M adapter on the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 26, 2014 Share #128 Posted August 26, 2014 I'm sorry Jaap, to me that sounds like crap. I mean such a camera. I don't have the option when shooting film, but when I take my M240 with me I regularly switch iso. And what if my phone ran out of juice? Or what if I forgot to take my phone with me? Stuck with iso 200 for the day? With 64GB cards costing next to nothing I really don't care about the frame counter. It's impossible for me to fill that card within a day. ISO change was the dial at the back, remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted August 26, 2014 Share #129 Posted August 26, 2014 If so, make it a Monochrom, 3.000 euro and I'm in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 26, 2014 Share #130 Posted August 26, 2014 I suppose it demonstrates that a digital camera with a flange distance of 18.0 mm doesn’t need to be much deeper than a film-based camera with a flange distance of 27.8 mm. <yawn> Uh ? When I use a Leica-R adapter, my NEX flange distance is 47 mm. Yet the body remains much thinner than the M's. Black magic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 26, 2014 Share #131 Posted August 26, 2014 Uh ?When I use a Leica-R adapter, my NEX flange distance is 47 mm. Yet the body remains much thinner than the M's. Black magic ? It isn't, when you take the width of the adaptor into account Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 26, 2014 Share #132 Posted August 26, 2014 The NEX-7, for instance, is a bit deeper than the M, measured from flange to display. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2599264-post37.html Apart from the biased comparison (the other side of the NEX7, much thinner, is not shown in the pictures), this demonstrates that regardless of flange distance, it is the industrial design of the body that really matters. You don't handle the camera by the mount. Leica's M bodies are in desperate need of a "remodel". They did a good job with the T, now it is the M turn. Now, even with a T to M adapter, anyone will admit the T body is much thinner than the fat M Typ 240. And yet the flange distance is the same and the T has a nice LCD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 26, 2014 Share #133 Posted August 26, 2014 It isn't, when you take the width of the adaptor into account Why should I ? I don't handle the camera by the adapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 27, 2014 Share #134 Posted August 27, 2014 Why should I ? I don't handle the camera by the adapter. The registry distance is made up by the adaptor. It's not a valid comparison to compare a thin body with an adaptor to one with the right registry distance built in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 27, 2014 Share #135 Posted August 27, 2014 Depends on the grounds of comparison. As far as ergonomics are concerned, i prefer holding my thinner X-E2 with an adapter than my M240 without one. I don't forget that the latter is a full frame camera though so i just hope that the next M will be thinner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted August 27, 2014 Share #136 Posted August 27, 2014 ISO and shutter dial plus a small histogram display on the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted August 27, 2014 Share #137 Posted August 27, 2014 Lunch time brainwave.... Solution to camera thickness issue (range finder mechanism thickness is a separate story). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/232671-rumor-leica-to-announce-digital-rangefinder-without-an-lcd-screen-at-photokina/?do=findComment&comment=2658156'>More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 27, 2014 Share #138 Posted August 27, 2014 Lunch time brainwave.... Solution to camera thickness issue (range finder mechanism thickness is a separate story). Love the brainwave But I am afraid the double mirror will introduce light loss, aberrations, and calibration issues Keep it simple. There is no need for the entire camera body to be thicker than the flange distance. Flange distance only matters for the lens mount segment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted August 27, 2014 Share #139 Posted August 27, 2014 Love the brainwave But I am afraid the double mirror will introduce light loss, aberrations, and calibration issues Keep it simple. There is no need for the entire camera body to be thicker than the flange distance. Flange distance only matters for the lens mount segment. Of course. It was simply a joke. (since M thickness issue keeps popping up) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 27, 2014 Share #140 Posted August 27, 2014 Flange distance plus sensor plus motherboard plus body shell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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