wlaidlaw Posted August 12, 2014 Share #1 Posted August 12, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Formatting the SD card in the camera, deletes any saved profiles. Now I did fear this might happen, so saved my profiles onto my laptop hard drive and then reloaded them onto the SD card, afterwards. This makes saving the profiles to a card a bit pointless. Like many people, I automatically reformat the card, every time after I have downloaded the images. This is to clear the FAT table so that images are written sequentially on the card, rather than being scattered over it, as they could be if you did not reformat. If the camera saves the image sequence and the folder numbering, there is no reason it could not resave the profiles to the card, if they were there before. However, I am not sure that saving them to the card is a good way of doing this at all. Maybe saving them to a non-volatile memory in the camera might have been a better arrangement. What do others think? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted August 12, 2014 Share #2 Posted August 12, 2014 That I do not save them on a card I use for photographs. I have an old small card that carries the firmware and saved profiles which lives at the bottom of my camera bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Share #3 Posted August 12, 2014 Formatting the SD card in the camera, deletes any saved profiles. ,,, Is that a new feature of the M-240? Never one of the profiles of the M8 has been changed by formatting SD-cards inside the camera or outside on a computer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 12, 2014 Share #4 Posted August 12, 2014 Yes, it is an M240 thing. User profiles can be saved to an SD card. Formatting does obviously not change the profiles in the camera, but it will wipe the data on the card. The file numbering is stored in the camera, as not to be deleted, but the camera will check for a file number on the inserted card and adapt the stored number accordingly. In answer to Wilson: Storing the saved profiles on a card allows you to transfer them to another camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted August 12, 2014 Share #5 Posted August 12, 2014 Formatting a card is done by writing a set of empty FAT and directories to the card. So it'a small wonder for all files to disappear. I never reformat my cards in the nornal course of things. I merely "move" the directory with the pictures from the card to the desktop. That's "move" and not "copy". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted August 12, 2014 That I do not save them on a card I use for photographs. I have an old small card that carries the firmware and saved profiles which lives at the bottom of my camera bag. Jaap, That is a very good idea. I always keep a small card with the latest FW on it in my bag, where I will now save the profiles. If I have a lock up, I usually insert the FW card, which then checks that the internal FW is the same as that on the card but I am not sure this is working any longer on the M240. I feel, given the speed of the check, that all it may be checking is the FW serial number or at best the checksum. This procedure seemed to work well on the M8 and 9, avoiding instantly repeating lock ups. I wanted to reload my FW today as I have had a minor issue with some JPEG thumbnails on DNG’s on the card being corrupt. When you look to download the DNG’s using either LR or C1, the JPEG thumbnails are just a series of multicoloured lines and dots. The DNG’s themselves are fine. The JPEG thumbnail picture on the LCD is also OK. I have checked the SD card with SD formatter and Blackmagic and it seems fine. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted August 12, 2014 Share #7 Posted August 12, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Isn't this a variation of the previously noted Lightroom bug where refreshing the thumbnails is all you need to do? Other occurrences have been old pictures rather than corrupt ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted August 12, 2014 Share #8 Posted August 12, 2014 errrr........ you just need a change in the sequence of what you do ...... I re-format used, downloaded and full cards in the camera ...... .... then the first thing I do is to save the profiles from the camera ..... ..... and as I have several cards on the go and only format the oldest I have copies of my most recent photos and profiles on a number of cards anyway..... as 16mb cards are fairly cheap I would rather do this and have a recent solid state back-up of both images and profiles to rely on ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted August 13, 2014 Share #9 Posted August 13, 2014 That I do not save them on a card I use for photographs. I have an old small card that carries the firmware and saved profiles which lives at the bottom of my camera bag. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 13, 2014 Share #10 Posted August 13, 2014 I format the card after I download the photos as well. I then reload the profiles from the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted August 13, 2014 I agree that all of your methodologies work but they are all “work arounds”. The camera should be doing this for us. I think I have used up my allocated firmware request for the next version with the alteration of the GPS position deletion timing but it is something I might ask to be looked at for the next but one FW updates. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 13, 2014 Share #12 Posted August 13, 2014 It is not difficult to save profile files on HDs, SD cards and/or dropboxes. I don't want my camera doing it for me and erasing earlier files w/o my consent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 13, 2014 Share #13 Posted August 13, 2014 Formatting the card in camera should save profiles in a temp RAM buffer, and then restore them back to the card after formatting is complete. Simple things that make the difference... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted August 14, 2014 Share #14 Posted August 14, 2014 Formatting the card in camera should save profiles in a temp RAM buffer, and then restore them back to the card after formatting is complete. Simple things that make the difference... ....... and the facility to save multiple sets of profiles with some sensible names and be able to then reload the set you want ........ just 4 profiles and being able to save one set is a bit inadequate. Leica seem to have a habit of implementing things in a very limited way with not a lot of thought about the consequences ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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