jaques Posted July 28, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) yesterday my camera did something it hasn't done before: the shutter button stopped working. For around 6 shots I would press the button and nothing would happen. Camera was set to S single shot mode. The red dot would appear on live view (exposure lock?) but no shutter fire. I set the camera to self timer- it fired- and then all was normal again. Then later when playing back and zooming in on images one of them 'fell apart' at 'higher zooms.' it would appear as pink and green horizontal lines of noise. Zooming out it looks fine. Then: when looking around in images the scroll wheel would scroll all the way across a frame without being held down- like it locked. None of these were a big deal as such- just wondering if this pattern of behavior might signify something ominous? any one else had an issue where the shutter button did not fire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pop Posted July 28, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 28, 2014 I have not yet heard of any shutters failing to fire. However, there has been at least one incident of a camera madly scrolling through all pictures when entering the "play" mode. My primary suspect would be either an electrical contact in a switch or connection or a defective cable between the switches on the top right hand side and the main board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted July 28, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 28, 2014 Alas, I have had all three of the above-described complaints. The shutter not firing is, I believe, episodic but not uncommon, and is fixable through the old stand-bye reset: removing and reinserting the battery. The "carousel" problem where on playback after taking a picture, there is a scrolling of all of the pictures on the SD card continues to be an annoyance, though not quite yet at the level of having to send the camera in. And the camera's indecision about whether or not to deliver the close-in view of the image has happened a few times. Come to think of it, this all sounds like a terrible problem. But 98% of the time the camera works, and the idea of sending it to the NJ or German hospital isn't inviting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmathews Posted July 28, 2014 Share #4 Posted July 28, 2014 I've had similar problem, but perhaps even worse. 240 stopped firing and then decided to randomly start video recording everything. Then then moved from being sporadic to persistent, and rendered the camera totally unusable. Has been back with Leica for some 7 weeks now, which to my mind is as disappointing. Apparently they have found a fault with the shutter, but sounds to me like it is beyond that. Shame to miss the summer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted July 28, 2014 Share #5 Posted July 28, 2014 The shutter release button can lock if the camera freeze or the buffer is simply working. I remember I have had that, but it was obvious something was wrong. The shutter release feels stiff and not moving at all in this case. Also water or rain can make the shutter release on the M240 (as well as the M9, Nikon cameras, etc) to stop working. Usually they will start working randomly again after a while, then more and more normal and usually after some hours or days completely normal. If the video/shutter buttons (or any other buttons) start or won't work randomly, I would expect it needs cleaning/drying. That happens with computer keyboards as well if there is dirt or liquids (that they keep writing qqqqqqqqq or a bottom doesn't work all the time). Shutter failure can also cause nothing to happen, or only half shutter release, etc. Often that will results in odd exposed images; half exposed, under-esposed or over-exposed. Shutter failure usually has a different sound as result. Wrong timing of the shutter sound, half sound or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted July 31, 2014 Share #6 Posted July 31, 2014 If your shutter release has gotten rain in it, try putting the camera body in a gallon size ziploc freezer bag with one of these - Pelican Silica Gel 1500-500-000 B&H Photo Video . Leave it in there overnight or over the weekend as needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSFO Posted August 1, 2014 Share #7 Posted August 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've noticed something similar recently. Walking about and when the moment came to raise the camera and take the image.... the shutter would not do anything. One thing I am noticing is that I have the camera on 2 minute Auto Power Off mode. It appears to be related to the time it takes to power up once the camera has gone to sleep mode. I may just either set the Auto Power Off mode to either 10 minutes OR Off. Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 1, 2014 Share #8 Posted August 1, 2014 I've noticed something similar recently. Walking about and when the moment came to raise the camera and take the image.... the shutter would not do anything. One thing I am noticing is that I have the camera on 2 minute Auto Power Off mode. It appears to be related to the time it takes to power up once the camera has gone to sleep mode. I may just either set the Auto Power Off mode to either 10 minutes OR Off. Hope this helps. Off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted August 1, 2014 Share #9 Posted August 1, 2014 ^ That certainly ought not be necessary unless it's a firmware bug, in which case lots of people should be experiencing it. Have you tried reloading the firmware? Otherwise it seems like it'd be a hardware problem with specific camera(s). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted August 1, 2014 In my case there was no water or cold weather involved. Also the camera was definitely powered up and turned on as the live-view screen was on. I deliberately pressed the shutter fully maybe 6 times- the exposure lock light came on each time but no shutter fire. The problem hasn't re-occurred yet so hopefully it was some kind of one off gremlin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo63 Posted August 1, 2014 Share #11 Posted August 1, 2014 i have had mine lock up twice now - both times it has clicked, but the shutter hasn't recocked and it won't fire again (obviously because the shutter is stuck) removing the battery forces it to reset. does this sound like the fault you are having ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 1, 2014 Share #12 Posted August 1, 2014 In my case there was no water or cold weather involved. Also the camera was definitely powered up and turned on as the live-view screen was on. I deliberately pressed the shutter fully maybe 6 times- the exposure lock light came on each time...... There is a natural delay before the shutter can be released again when in Live View, and (which seems to be longer when the camera first wakes up) and it is possible to repeatedly press the shutter with nothing happening. This goes for using both the EVF or the LCD. It seems to be something to do with the things the M has to do in that time, close the shutter then open and close it again for the exposure, then open the shutter again for continuation of Live View. But it shouldn't happen when not in Live View, the limiting factor there would be the buffer. So if doing something like action photography with Live View on you have to take into account the extra delay before another exposure can be made. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted August 1, 2014 Share #13 Posted August 1, 2014 That ^ might be why I haven't had it happen. As soon as I installed the new firmware I deactivated the LV button and would only reactivate it in case to use my 400mm Telyt or 70-210 Vario Elmar. Both of which I have to say I prefer using on my 5D than with the M240's EVF, at least from the standpoint of viewing/focusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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