stevelap Posted May 20, 2014 Share #161 Posted May 20, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well for something that's "clearly explained in the manual" there's a hell of a lot of people here suggesting otherwise. For something that offers such a state of the art way of working with clever touch screens and what appear to be really clever menu's that can be personalised this seems a glaring omission when things like the Sony A6000 seem to offer it along with NFC . It's clearly explained in the manual that the T works in infrastructure mode, and it does. The manual does not say that the T works in ad- hoc mode, and it doesn't. There is no confusion. As mentioned by Plasticman earlier, there is however the question of whether ad- hoc mode is desirable (it is!) and whether it can be implemented via a firmware update or not. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted May 20, 2014 Share #162 Posted May 20, 2014 While ad hoc mode support is a matter of software, NFC requires hardware which (to my knowledge) the T lacks. As does the iPhone, btw, so NFC will never work with the iPhone even if the camera supports it. (Unless Apple overcomes their dislike of NFC – apparently it’s against their religion or something – and supports NFC with the next generation iPhone.) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenWithAVee Posted May 20, 2014 Share #163 Posted May 20, 2014 While ad hoc mode support is a matter of software Thank you. That at least gives hope that it could be turned on with a firmware update?! Vs having to go buy a spare unlocked iPhone or paying for hotspot functionality that we don't really need in order to get it to work... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 20, 2014 Share #164 Posted May 20, 2014 Quite by chance I bought a -discounted,being only 3G, small portable hotspot at the Vodaphone shop last Monday. Together with the dual Sim Card it set me back less than 50 Euro, say two SD cards. To be fair I only bought it for the discount and because of a vague idea it might come in handy some day, but it appears to me that it might be the el-cheapo WIFI network solution. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted May 21, 2014 Share #165 Posted May 21, 2014 Quite by chance I bought a -discounted,being only 3G, small portable hotspot at the Vodaphone shop last Monday. Together with the dual Sim Card it set me back less than 50 Euro, say two SD cards. To be fair I only bought it for the discount and because of a vague idea it might come in handy some day, but it appears to me that it might be the el-cheapo WIFI network solution. It may have only cost $50...but here in the US, you would have to commit to a 2 year contract at $50/mo in addition to the $50 purchase price...so effectively that $50 purchase is well over $1000. Regardless...I don't want to be on the internet to transfer images to my mac. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 21, 2014 Share #166 Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Over here it was sold as an accessory to my existing subscription, so no extra cost at all . That is what the dual SIM card is for. Again I would use the "no service" trick to stay off the Internet. Heck - the post was just meant as a constructive suggestion to make the best of the situation. Edited May 21, 2014 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woorob Posted May 22, 2014 Share #167 Posted May 22, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Over here it was sold as an accessory to my existing subscription, so no extra cost at all . That is what the dual SIM card is for. Again I would use the "no service" trick to stay off the Internet. Heck - the post was just meant as a constructive suggestion to make the best of the situation. It might be best to limit your views to your own situation. As someone who has negotiated licenses for billions of cell phones worldwide, the situation in the EU is markedly different from the US. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted May 22, 2014 Share #168 Posted May 22, 2014 The more I read this thread the more I feel we need a separate forum to separate the non-IT from the IT and telecom users as thanks to Leica we are slowly veering away from photography to the world of SMAC - Social Media, Mobile, Analytics 'Big Data' and Cloud Computing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 22, 2014 Share #169 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) It might be best to limit your views to your own situation. As someone who has negotiated licenses for billions of cell phones worldwide, the situation in the EU is markedly different from the US.That is abundantly clear here. However, that does not mean that they may not be voiced. I do not notice my American friends limiting their views to their own situation.To be expected on a worldwide forum. I find the differences interesting. Edited May 22, 2014 by jaapv 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted May 22, 2014 Share #170 Posted May 22, 2014 Interesting as it may be, this thread is not about big bad American telephone companies not delivering. It's about a new Leica product that until now does not seem to bring functionality that most of us have come to expect in 2014. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 22, 2014 Share #171 Posted May 22, 2014 And the workarounds, whilst voicing the same complaint 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted May 22, 2014 Share #172 Posted May 22, 2014 I have a real solution for people who don't want to buy three iPhones, several iPad Airs, a portable wifi hotspot and/or sign away their savings on phone plans designed to suck the last sign of life out of your bank account! Here it is: A camera that can set-up an ad hoc network without costing you your shirt. Thank me later. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 22, 2014 Share #173 Posted May 22, 2014 .:D Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 22, 2014 Share #174 Posted May 22, 2014 I guess Leica should provide a $200 device like this as accessory for creating personal hotspot. XYFI, the world's smallest Personal Hotspot | Option (I am not sure linking a product website is against the forum rules or not. I am not associated with this in any way) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 22, 2014 Share #175 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Not sure whether XYFI have to have a data plan in order to create hotspot. If it does then its no different than iPhone. I think traditional Leica folks are getting crash course in modern technology available in L cameras (or lack of it). Edited May 22, 2014 by jmahto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 22, 2014 Share #176 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Eureka !! Finally found the cheap solution !!! For $165 you can get Canon 320HS. It is the cheapest available P&S with WiFi (the proper way) You shoot using T, take out the SD card, put it into Canon and transfer to your phone. Canon PowerShot ELPH 320 HS 16MP Blue Camera 013803145618 | eBay So, is Leica fixing the T ? Edited May 22, 2014 by jmahto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 22, 2014 Share #177 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) My search has come to an end (and my sanity restored). Just get some Lightning Adapter Camera Connection Kit For Apple Devices (or android equivalent) which reads from SD card for transferring pictures from T to smartphone in the wild and get done with it. Who needs wireless !! Your cost less that $10. Thank me later. Controlling the camera from smartphone .... that is another mater. Keep going... Edited May 22, 2014 by jmahto 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenWithAVee Posted May 23, 2014 Share #178 Posted May 23, 2014 My search has come to an end (and my sanity restored). Just get some Lightning Adapter Camera Connection Kit For Apple Devices (or android equivalent) which reads from SD card for transferring pictures from T to smartphone in the wild and get done with it. Who needs wireless !! Your cost less that $10. Thank me later. Controlling the camera from smartphone .... that is another mater. Keep going... Personally I don't get the big deal about transferring photos to one's phone from the camera. Are people really only using the photos they take straight from digital cameras to upload to Facebook or wherever without any kind of processing? Why not just take photos with your phone to upload to Facebook? I'm more concerned about controlling the camera remotely. And, as you say, this does not address that. I'm just saying. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEBnewyork Posted May 23, 2014 Share #179 Posted May 23, 2014 Personally I don't get the big deal about transferring photos to one's phone from the camera. Are people really only using the photos they take straight from digital cameras to upload to Facebook or wherever without any kind of processing? Why not just take photos with your phone to upload to Facebook? I'm more concerned about controlling the camera remotely. And, as you say, this does not address that. I'm just saying. I wanted the remote camera control as well. As to processing there are a lot of very good processing apps on the iPad/iPhone for some quicker edits while out without a laptop. So, no personally I don't post them "as is" but processed a bit with different apps I do email some photos to frieds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timde Posted May 23, 2014 Share #180 Posted May 23, 2014 Personally I don't get the big deal about transferring photos to one's phone from the camera. Are people really only using the photos they take straight from digital cameras to upload to Facebook or wherever without any kind of processing? Why not just take photos with your phone to upload to Facebook? Yes, if I take a good photo it will go on Facebook without any processing, or perhaps in camera conversion to BW (some like art filters). I put more effort into photos I might share on 500px and the like, but for Facebook a good photo is enough. If I'm out walking and its a good sun set, or early morning light is good, I will use the phone and post immediatly. But the thing is this, the photos from the camera look _much_ better than those from the phone ... so I would rather post the camera version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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