lct Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share #21 Posted August 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2. Auto aperture and auto iso work the same... I meant Auto exposure sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Hi lct, Take a look here Fuji X-E2 with M lenses. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
intermediatic Posted August 27, 2014 Share #22 Posted August 27, 2014 Better do your tests with a Leica lens and a good adapter IMHO. I have one Fuji lens only (18/2) and in spite of a respectable sharpness, distortion and CA are definitely sub-par. Also jpegs out of the X-E2 are not better than elsewhere and this little cam deserves the best raw converters. Fair enough, will use my m mount lenses and the fuji leica adapter, no sense comparing the zoom to my glorious CV 50mm f/1.5 nokton classic lens. The kit 18-55 lens is good for fun shots, not for any serious work. Yes, of course, won't use the jpegs, lightroom all the way. I didn't see any real CA with either the kit lens or my CV lenses, most unlike the Sony A7R, which I found unusable. Anyway, the zoom is nice to have for fun days out with the family and so forth when I don't want to drag my 5DMK2 around (which is most any day…*I don't ever take that beast out) and when I'm not paying enough attention and am apt to leave the M 240 behind (I did that at the airport last month and only recovered it after 3 days, nearly had a stroke) or don't want to think about what I'm shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted August 27, 2014 Share #23 Posted August 27, 2014 The kit 18-55 lens is good for fun shots, not for any serious work. I had always thought the 18-55 was an excellent performer, and certainly better the the 18mm f2 at that focal length. I know of many people, and at least one eminent ex professional in the UK, who consider it so. Whilst it may be no Leica lens, it is far from being the novelty, fun item you seem to suggest. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share #24 Posted August 27, 2014 Sharp lens for the price but 4.6% distortion and 1.5+ EV vignetting at 18mm according to Photozone. I have no experience with this lens though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted August 27, 2014 Share #25 Posted August 27, 2014 Sharp lens for the price but 4.6% distortion and 1.5+ EV vignetting at 18mm according to Photozone. I have no experience with this lens though. Agreed but looking beyond the figures, the Photozone test reaches a very positive (4*) conclusion about this lens, considering it is a relatively low priced zoom and inevitably a compromise. Having said that, I'll stick with primes......and the thread is about M lenses, so apologies for the hijack! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 27, 2014 Share #26 Posted August 27, 2014 Sharp lens for the price but 4.6% distortion and 1.5+ EV vignetting at 18mm according to Photozone. I have no experience with this lens though. That's corrected in camera, and I've not noticed any artifacts from the correction - it's quite possible I've not been looking closely enough. As mentioned earlier it's a better lens at the wide end than the 18mm f2 - IMHO of course. This is on an X-Pro 1, which it a fine camera, but I'm beginning to think is a dead end - for me at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share #27 Posted August 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) [...] That's corrected in camera, and I've not noticed any artifacts from the correction [...] Hi Steve, you mean correction of jpegs i guess. Raw files out of my X-E2 must be corrected in PP. Not always simple with the Fuji 18/2 given its huge distortion. In spite of soft corners below f/8 i end up using my M lenses instead, especially the tiny CV 21/4 which gives better results on the Fuji than on the R-D1 as far as corner rendition is concerned. Hard to beat the Fuji 18 at f/2 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted August 29, 2014 Share #28 Posted August 29, 2014 Steve, I would be interested to know why you ae not happy with the xpro 1. And also your experiences with M lenses on it. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 29, 2014 Share #29 Posted August 29, 2014 Hi Steve, you mean correction of jpegs i guess. Raw files out of my X-E2 must be corrected in PP. Not always simple with the Fuji 18/2 given its huge distortion. In spite of soft corners below f/8 i end up using my M lenses instead, especially the tiny CV 21/4 which gives better results on the Fuji than on the R-D1 as far as corner rendition is concerned. Hard to beat the Fuji 18 at f/2 though. I shoot RAW, but I haven't noticed a problem on my X-Pro, perhaps I need to shoot more brick walls at the wide end of the lens <grin>. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 29, 2014 Share #30 Posted August 29, 2014 Steve, I would be interested to know why you ae not happy with the xpro 1. And also your experiences with M lenses on it. First of all it's a great camera, with a very quiet shutter, the images that come out of it are very, very good. However I don't feel I've 'bonded' with the camera. It's lots of small things really - and probably the fact that I'm coming from an M background, and the camera isn't an M. I shoot mainly using the optical finder - I've not found the EVF to be very good - so most of my issues revolve around that. First of all it doesn't always put the focus point where I want it - inevitable with AF on a 'rangefinder' type of viewfinder I suppose. Secondly, and my biggest problem, is that when the AF focuses the framelines can jump dramatically meaning that I have to recompose the shot and possibly reselect the focus point. I realise this happens with the M, but the framelines are moving as I focus, it's not a sudden jump, so I can adjust the composition as they move. The lenses are bigger than I was expecting. This is probably only an issue because I'm coming from an M background where even my largest lens - a 24mm Elmarit - is relatively small. Finally I hate, hate, hate the exposure compensation dial. It's a very good idea, but it's location means that it often gets moved when I put the camera in and out of the camera bag. I've just about got used to checking it ever time I take the camera out, but I wish I didn't have to do that. As for M lenses, although I bought the Fuji adaptor I haven't used it very much. In practice it means using the EVF, and I don't rate that very highly. I find the EVF has the usual problems, it's laggy, the definition isn't high enough, and I find it looks rather dim in bright sunlight (I'm talking about the in camera EVF, not the one on the back of the camera). So I haven't used the Leica M lenses as much as I was expecting to. On the plus side, the viewfinder can look a bit 'fussy', but it's possible to turn of the elements you're not interested in. Also having one set of illuminated framlines is excellent, something I thought Leica would have introduce by now. In summary I guess I'm saying it's an excellent camera, but personally I wish I'd saved a bit more and bought a used M9 - or saved even longer and bought a 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted August 29, 2014 Share #31 Posted August 29, 2014 Dimness in bright light seems to be a problem with most if not all evf viewfinders, I have been using either a Tewe zoom finder or a Leica VIOOH on the Nex 6. Thanks for the info, Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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