Jim123456 Posted May 3, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 3, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello everyone, I just have my Leica M for a month and it works well. However, when I change lens today, I noticed the inner swivel inside mount is a little different from others on Internet. Here are the pictures: the first one is a sample from internet, the other two pics are mine. I noticed it seems like some paint covered on my swivel and I also found the paint is dry already. Sorry for my poor English and it is a little to describe it. I know this does not affect my normal use, but anyone know is this normal case or there may have some issues? Thanks for reading my issue! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/226432-is-this-normal-for-my-m/?do=findComment&comment=2581981'>More sharing options...
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luigi bertolotti Posted May 3, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 3, 2014 The swivel arm is part of the RF adjusting mechanism (as you can verify, the arm in itself does not activate anything : it "zeroes" resting on the adjustable little drum at lower left) : I have just checked my M and my M8 : in both of them the arm looks like in your first picture : pure metal, and not flat... has a little torsion which is surely not casual... I suppose is an old fashioned, but always efficient, trick to compensate for stress/inducing temperature gradients. Indeed, your item looks different... but picture isn't so sharp...are you sure there is PAINT on it ? Anyway, if you are next to your dealer and the dealer is good, you can have it inspected... otherwise, I'd suggest to take some good pictures (take all the time it needs... 2 or 3, from different angles and proper lighting with a good macro set, supposed you have) and send them to Leica CS asking if it's normal or not. Of course... better not to touch with tools the mechanism... the main component that could knock down the factory cost of a speculated "EVF only" future FF Leica... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 3, 2014 Share #3 Posted May 3, 2014 There is some black paint on mine as well. If you like your pics i would not worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted May 3, 2014 Share #4 Posted May 3, 2014 I believe the "paint" is there to seal the setting of the adjustment screw. My M has it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim123456 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted May 3, 2014 There is some black paint on mine as well. If you like your pics i would not worry. Really, actually I'm not sure it is real paint or not. If you have the same condition I would't be worry about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim123456 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted May 3, 2014 I believe the "paint" is there to seal the setting of the adjustment screw. My M has it too. If it is used to seal the screw, then why some Ms have, some Ms do not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim123456 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted May 3, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello everyone, I just have my Leica M for a month and it works well. However, when I change lens today, I noticed the inner swivel inside mount is a little different from others on Internet. Here are the pictures: the first one is a sample from internet, the other two pics are mine. I noticed it seems like some paint covered on my swivel and I also found the paint is dry already. Sorry for my poor English and it is a little to describe it.I know this does not affect my normal use, but anyone know is this normal case or there may have some issues? Thanks for reading my issue! I want to add that it does't dent although it looks not flat. It looks like some materials cover on it, but I don't know what it is. This camera was produced in February so I don't think it is a second hand one or something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim123456 Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted May 5, 2014 I also see my swivel looks like the copper color. Is that copper or rusty？ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted May 5, 2014 Share #9 Posted May 5, 2014 Brass. Not Copper. Relax and enjoy your camera. They're individually assembled so things like this will have ever so slight differences from camera to camera. I had two M9's and they even had a different shutter sound. Pics still looked the same though. It's like wondering why McDonalds burgers don't ever look like the one on the display behind the counter. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim123456 Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted May 5, 2014 Brass. Not Copper. Relax and enjoy your camera. They're individually assembled so things like this will have ever so slight differences from camera to camera. I had two M9's and they even had a different shutter sound. Pics still looked the same though. It's like wondering why McDonalds burgers don't ever look like the one on the display behind the counter. Gordon Thanks. So are you sure the cooper color is not rusty？ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 5, 2014 Share #11 Posted May 5, 2014 The locking “glue” is applied by hand, so some cameras may have a bit more or less on than others. An irrelevancy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted May 5, 2014 Share #12 Posted May 5, 2014 This bit with the locking gloop is not to be fiddled with. It is a sort of 'end stop' to limit the range of movement in the rangefinder arm ..... it is factory set and shouldn't need adjusting at all. On most M's there is also black gloop on the slotted screw in the adjustable bit of the mechanism .... which takes a bit of dissolving with acetone/butanol to get the screw undone. I'm not clear if it's to deter movement ..... or people like me fiddling with it ..... Everything in your photos is how it is meant to be ........ an antiquated mechanism that is essentially unchanged in 50 years ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim123456 Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted May 5, 2014 This bit with the locking gloop is not to be fiddled with. It is a sort of 'end stop' to limit the range of movement in the rangefinder arm ..... it is factory set and shouldn't need adjusting at all. On most M's there is also black gloop on the slotted screw in the adjustable bit of the mechanism .... which takes a bit of dissolving with acetone/butanol to get the screw undone. I'm not clear if it's to deter movement ..... or people like me fiddling with it ..... Everything in your photos is how it is meant to be ........ an antiquated mechanism that is essentially unchanged in 50 years ..... Thanks a lot for your explanation! Did you see the brass structure in my pictures? I'm afraid if it is rusty or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted May 5, 2014 Share #14 Posted May 5, 2014 Thanks. So are you sure the cooper color is not rusty？ copper goes green first. then darkens. doesn't look like old copper at all. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsittel Posted May 9, 2014 Share #15 Posted May 9, 2014 jaapv is right: Both screws in the VF mechanism are covered by black lacquer to secure them against loosening. In my M the LEICA people used only little lacquer so I had to use a magnifying glass to see it. Gordon is right as well: The lever which holds the roller is made of brass. Why its surface looks like rust, is LEICA's secret... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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