lenicolas Posted March 1, 2014 Share #21 Posted March 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Being a stereo Mic, it does the same thing your rode does... I sometimes use it between my videomic and my camera to monitor monitor levels more precisely (the Nikon amp has some noise if pushed too high, the zoom amp is better). In that configuration I record the output of the røde Mic with both the h1n and the d800, but at different levels. That way if one device saturated I can use the clean sound from the other one (a trick I learned from a sound engineer) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lenicolas Posted March 1, 2014 Share #22 Posted March 1, 2014 Ok, since we're talking about it so much, I'd like to share my setup with you : http://oi60.tinypic.com/33e1zzd.jpg This is how it looks when I'm using the bracket as a left hand handle. The zoom can serve as a pre-amp for the Rode, or as an independant stereo mic. (99% of the time I use it as a pre-amp. When I need it as an "ambiance mic" I just gorilla-pod it somewhere in the room so i don't have to carry it and it doesn't pick up my camera handling noise. The red thing is a cheap tab/focus tool from amazon that has improved my footage a lot http://oi57.tinypic.com/16jh6jl.jpg View from the back. I'm using the ZOOM as a pre-amp for the Rode, and recording in both the zoom and the camera. You can see on the crop that both record at very different levels, that's a security against saturation. This is possible because the zoom records straight from the mic, and the nikon is fed with the zoom's line out which you can adjust. I hope this helps/inspire some! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted March 1, 2014 Share #23 Posted March 1, 2014 Thanks for that - I understand your setup much better now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted March 1, 2014 Share #24 Posted March 1, 2014 A "no bullshit" thread about what you can actually accomplish with a 300euros (or less) budget would be welcome... The Transom.org site has reviews of several low-cost recorders and microphones: Transom: Recorders Transom: Microphones This article contains the results, including sound files, of a microphone shootout, as well as a comparison between a Sennheiser lavalier and shotgun mic: Transom: Microphone Shootout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted March 1, 2014 Share #25 Posted March 1, 2014 There's an option for sound recording that hasn't been mentioned yet. One can record to a laptop with (preferably) an audio interface that replaces the computer's sound card. There is good, free software to make the recording (Audacity), and the same software can be used to edit the sound recording. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted March 1, 2014 Share #26 Posted March 1, 2014 Here are some comments, in another thread, about the advantages of recording sound, if one has the option, to an external recorder: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/301940-strange-sound-when-recording-video-m-4.html#post2639789 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsilly Posted March 1, 2014 Share #27 Posted March 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Trying to record 'good' video on a M240 is a fools errand. It's just not built for that kind of work. Better to buy either a Canon DLSR and add Magic Lantern firmware or a Panasonic GH camera. Those two systems are much better suited for hybrid photography. Especially shooting on the fly. Having good optically stabilised lenses, especially with powers focus and zoom comes in very handy. So does the high bit rates and generally better codecs those cameras use when it comes to editing in post. When you consider you can buy a second hand GH3, Panasonic Lumix 12-35mm 2.8 zoom, Voigtlander 25mm or 42.5 0.95 prime, tripod & fluid head, dolly and external sound recorder & mic for less then a 1/10th of a Noctilux and M420 it seems crazy to bother with video on the M. One system is good for stills the other for video. Also, you can adapt you Leica lenses to a mirrorless camera like a Panasonic GH3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted March 1, 2014 Share #28 Posted March 1, 2014 Trying to record 'good' video on a M240 is a fools errand. Like this fool: A Passion for Steam Or this one: Funny Girls More fools here: Leica M 240 Video Here's the view of the fool who made Funny Girls, as published in The Guardian: "In the last few years, at last, Leica have made up for lost time. With the new M Type 240, it has produced a camera that could be as revolutionary for documentary video as its first camera was for still photography. "What makes the new Leica so special is that the rangefinder gives the intimacy of a small camera, but you also get its legendary lenses. I think a new kind of journalistic video will be able to take a very large step forward thanks to the M type 240, and the new video function on this camera could be as important as those early Leicas". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted March 1, 2014 Share #29 Posted March 1, 2014 I agree with that. Any camera can work for video, it all depends on the project. Some of YouTube most popular videos are shot on cellphones, I've seen directors deliver videos shot with handheld Panasonics to clients, I have done the same with a Nikon... I remember at least one occasion where the Leica would have gotten me images the Nikon couldn't : when I git kicked off of the Cartier Mansion in saint Tropez for looking too professional, while people with smaller cameras and phones were free to film everything... Use the rf finder on the M240 and people have no idea you're filming! As far as they know you are just a very confused tourist who can't seem to find his frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted March 1, 2014 Share #30 Posted March 1, 2014 Here is the new Page 37 of the Leica M 240 video pages (the third page on video with the Leica M 240). This page showcase a number for examples, as well as menu settings and how to upgrade the sound of video. leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Page 37 - Leica M Digital Rangefinder Camera Page - Video- & Moviemaking with the Leica M video - Part 3 - Sample Videos and Wireless Sound Equipment Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted March 1, 2014 Share #31 Posted March 1, 2014 Here is the new Page 37 of the Leica M 240 video pages (the third page on video with the Leica M 240). It is heartening to see that you have had second thoughts about the broadside attack on the camera that you and your colleague Mr. Behiri made last spring. Described as "blistering" on one site, this attack did the camera a good deal of damage among people who didn't know better. I've just read your new page 37. It looks like you've done a good deal of work putting together a video kit that works for you given your objectives. When I have a minute, I may post some comments in this thread (I use a simpler setup), but I do think that many people will find your new page 37 helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted March 7, 2014 Share #32 Posted March 7, 2014 How about sharpness, contrast, and saturation? I remember I read maybe a year ago on some other forum that it would be advisable to reduce sharpness when making video. Any tips on these settings? ...and AutoISO is not working or I didn't figure it out. For example, could I dial in AutoISO and EV -0.7? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted March 7, 2014 Share #33 Posted March 7, 2014 How about sharpness, contrast, and saturation? I remember I read maybe a year ago on some other forum that it would be advisable to reduce sharpness when making video. Any tips on these settings? ...and AutoISO is not working or I didn't figure it out. For example, could I dial in AutoISO and EV -0.7? There has been a good deal of discussion about this, particularly in relation to Canon DSLRs. Do a search on Philip Bloom or Vincent LaForet plus the words video and sharpness. Note that opinions are all over the map and that they are both camera model specific (that is, people have different views depending on which Canon one is talking about) and post processing software specific. Ultimately, the issue is about anti-aliasing filters, which the M 240 doesn't have. For DNG, I have been turning in-camera sharpening, as well as saturation and contrast, to the lowest level. With JPEG (video being Motion JPEG), I work on the premise that some in-camera sharpening is desirable, and that Leica's approach to in-camera sharpening takes into account the fact that the camera doesn't use an anti-aliasing filter, but I haven't tested the question. I set my ISO manually, so can't comment on your last sentence, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted March 8, 2014 Share #34 Posted March 8, 2014 When it comes to still photographs, I've only shot DNG, but presumably there are a fair number of people here who are shooting and processing JPEG stills. It would be very interesting to know their opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted September 21, 2014 Share #35 Posted September 21, 2014 Reviving this thread as I've got a shoot to do next week where I have to do static video interviews that will eventually be used on a university website. Broadcast quality not needed, so I'll probably shoot at 720 . I'll have good tripod with me and will be able to position subjects near to good window light (shooting between 10 am and 3 pm. so I feel reasonably hopeful on that score). I'm sorted on audio now using a tieclip mike + the Olympus audio adapter in the hot-shoe in the M-240 + long audio cable (the edit will be the monologue from the speaker), but have a couple of questions which relate to the new firmware. With the camera set at M (1/50th) does auto ISO work in video? I think not, but am not sure. It would be potentially useful if it did. Anyone with experience? I'm assuming I'll be using 25fps as we're in Europe + I'll try to work with f4 assuming I can get enough light (not carrying a rig, but I will have a reflector). Any other practical suggestions? Any thoughts welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted April 4, 2015 Share #36 Posted April 4, 2015 What a terrific video "A Passion for Steam"! Like this fool: A Passion for Steam Or this one: Funny Girls More fools here: Leica M 240 Video Here's the view of the fool who made Funny Girls, as published in The Guardian: "In the last few years, at last, Leica have made up for lost time. With the new M Type 240, it has produced a camera that could be as revolutionary for documentary video as its first camera was for still photography. "What makes the new Leica so special is that the rangefinder gives the intimacy of a small camera, but you also get its legendary lenses. I think a new kind of journalistic video will be able to take a very large step forward thanks to the M type 240, and the new video function on this camera could be as important as those early Leicas". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricktrack Posted September 17, 2017 Share #37 Posted September 17, 2017 Leica M (240): a question concerning the video play function: It is not possible to zoom into the videos while watching them on the camera, right? To be able to see, if the recordings are focussed, where they should be. (Like it's possible with photo images.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeTexas Posted September 18, 2017 Share #38 Posted September 18, 2017 I'm late to the discussion, but for video the rule of thumb for shutter speed is 1/(2 x frame rate). 24 fps = 1/50s 30 fps = 1/60s 60 fps = 1/120s So basically you set the shutter speed based on those calculations, then adjust exposure with aperture and ISO. As for the audio, I was using a Rode NTG-2 shotgun mic for several years, but now I'm just using the Leica stereo mic on the camera (basically as back-up sound and a sync reference) with a Zoom H2n recorder sitting as close to the person I'm interviewing as possible. After I sync the audio, I'll mute the camera audio and just use the Zoom audio. When doing video of live performances, I plug the Zoom H2n into the sound board and use the Leica mic on the camera. After I sync the audio I'll mix it so that the Zoom is the main audio but with enough of the camera mic that it catches the ambiance of the crowd and venue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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